Backpay for Cpls
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Interesting reading.
If your effective date of promotion is in March then you will not get backpay. Your pay will change with the effective date so you would have to get the unit to amend your date. A good supervisor and CO would have had it correct if they really wanted to take care of you and felt you earned it but mistakes do happen.
Promotion, even to Cpl, is not an entitlement. You mentioned reading CFAO 49-04 - where does it say it is an entitlement? Para 8 states:
8. In accordance with QR&O 11.02, a member may not be promoted unless the following conditions are met:
a. an appropriate vacancy in the total establishment for the component exists:
b. the member is recommended by the appropriate authority; and
c. the member meets such promotion standards and other conditions as the CDS may prescribe
For b that would be your CO. In essence you could not be promoted until the CO said yes.
Also have not found anything in there saying you are entitled to AL/Cpl until substantive. A correction on CFAO 49-4 23(a) - it does not specify that you're backdated to the 48 month mark - it states your seniority date will be the date promoted to acting lacking.
What you actually need is not a backdating of promotion but a correction to the effective date. Basically backdating is usually the result of not having the quals until after your date (and usually applies to officers), corrections are adjustments due to admin or other errors (such as the paperwork going astray). (Picky Picky)
If promoted prior to the end of the PER year (31 Mar) the PER is supposed to be done at the new rank which did not sit well with my supervisors when I was promoted to MS middle March of that year. They were required to redo my PER that they had already completed as a LS and did not feel it was fair to me to receive a MS PER when I had been employed at the lower rank for the year. I believe CFPAS Handbook Article 308 is still in effect (although may have been changed as this is a few years old):
the rank used will be the current rank held by the member at the end of the
reporting period with the exception of a rank designated “while so employed”
(see CFPAS Policy Directive para 22 “While so Employed”);
The promotion date is noted in Section 3 (?) Details of Employment/New Quals
All said and done - if all the information you have provided is correct then the norm would be for your promotion effective date to be Dec (the 48 month mark), your unit can do a correction for the CO to sign (and perhaps slap them for the error) and then process so that you get pay adjusted back to the corrected effective date. You should have a PER written as a Cpl - whether this is good or bad for you only time will tell. Mine turned out to be good for me in the long run.
Now go get them and good luck.
If your effective date of promotion is in March then you will not get backpay. Your pay will change with the effective date so you would have to get the unit to amend your date. A good supervisor and CO would have had it correct if they really wanted to take care of you and felt you earned it but mistakes do happen.
Promotion, even to Cpl, is not an entitlement. You mentioned reading CFAO 49-04 - where does it say it is an entitlement? Para 8 states:
8. In accordance with QR&O 11.02, a member may not be promoted unless the following conditions are met:
a. an appropriate vacancy in the total establishment for the component exists:
b. the member is recommended by the appropriate authority; and
c. the member meets such promotion standards and other conditions as the CDS may prescribe
For b that would be your CO. In essence you could not be promoted until the CO said yes.
Also have not found anything in there saying you are entitled to AL/Cpl until substantive. A correction on CFAO 49-4 23(a) - it does not specify that you're backdated to the 48 month mark - it states your seniority date will be the date promoted to acting lacking.
What you actually need is not a backdating of promotion but a correction to the effective date. Basically backdating is usually the result of not having the quals until after your date (and usually applies to officers), corrections are adjustments due to admin or other errors (such as the paperwork going astray). (Picky Picky)
If promoted prior to the end of the PER year (31 Mar) the PER is supposed to be done at the new rank which did not sit well with my supervisors when I was promoted to MS middle March of that year. They were required to redo my PER that they had already completed as a LS and did not feel it was fair to me to receive a MS PER when I had been employed at the lower rank for the year. I believe CFPAS Handbook Article 308 is still in effect (although may have been changed as this is a few years old):
the rank used will be the current rank held by the member at the end of the
reporting period with the exception of a rank designated “while so employed”
(see CFPAS Policy Directive para 22 “While so Employed”);
The promotion date is noted in Section 3 (?) Details of Employment/New Quals
All said and done - if all the information you have provided is correct then the norm would be for your promotion effective date to be Dec (the 48 month mark), your unit can do a correction for the CO to sign (and perhaps slap them for the error) and then process so that you get pay adjusted back to the corrected effective date. You should have a PER written as a Cpl - whether this is good or bad for you only time will tell. Mine turned out to be good for me in the long run.
Now go get them and good luck.
