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Good topic and to clarify the RCD and LdSH(RC) officers and NCO wear metal badges, there has never been a cloth badge for the LdSH(RC), unless you are talking about the old "Cloth" badge for the field hat.
Also please refer to Regiments as by their proper names, IE: RCD are referred to as RCD and LdSH(RC) are referred to as LdSH(RC) or "Strathconas". If you are unsure as how to address units, I suggest trying there web sites or on line regimental manuals. Be respectful to units as you would want the same for yours.
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Good topic and to clarify the RCD and LdSH(RC) officers and NCO wear metal badges, there has never been a cloth badge for the LdSH(RC), unless you are talking about the old "Cloth" badge for the field hat.
Also please refer to Regiments as by their proper names, IE: RCD are referred to as RCD and LdSH(RC) are referred to as LdSH(RC) or "Strathconas". If you are unsure as how to address units, I suggest trying there web sites or on line regimental manuals. Be respectful to units as you would want the same for yours.
TANKS
Michael Dorosh
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They certainly have better artists than we do....
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Are the CME the only group of the Combat Arms who wear cloth cap badges?
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On a related note, is it just me or do the Artillery IG and AIG Forage Caps look utterly ludicrous when worn with the CADPAT dress of the day? I'm sorry - I fully appreciate the historical and personal investment in earning the right to wear the WW II pattern cap and the red band and/or white "shower cap" cover. But at the end of the day, it looks absolutely ludicrous worn with the CADPAT dress of the day.
My sincere apologies to the Gunners, but let's get real - you guys look like utter tools wearing those "gee aren't I cool" hats. The gut response of every other combat arm is "no, you look like an utter tool". I am not a big fan of wearing your UER on your uniform in the first place. But you guys have taken it to the extreme, and are the last bastion of "look at how nifty I am" anti-credibility. The sad truth of the matter is that the Arty AG and AIG forage caps look like utter shite with the CADPAT dress of the day.
Really, I think you guys need to (institutionally speaking) get over yourselves. The CTC Arty School currently looks like a dork convention.....
Just my $.02 as a non-involved observer....
My sincere apologies to the Gunners, but let's get real - you guys look like utter tools wearing those "gee aren't I cool" hats. The gut response of every other combat arm is "no, you look like an utter tool". I am not a big fan of wearing your UER on your uniform in the first place. But you guys have taken it to the extreme, and are the last bastion of "look at how nifty I am" anti-credibility. The sad truth of the matter is that the Arty AG and AIG forage caps look like utter shite with the CADPAT dress of the day.
Really, I think you guys need to (institutionally speaking) get over yourselves. The CTC Arty School currently looks like a dork convention.....
Just my $.02 as a non-involved observer....
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Mark C - I had no idea what the hell you were talking about until I came across this in the manuscript for my third book, on dress regulations for officers of the Canadian Army in WW II).
This is what you mean by historical precedent I take it:
Instructors - Artillery
In April 1943 CMHQ approved the wear of a red band around their forage cap (in the manner of staff officers in the First World War) by Instructors of Gunnery (officers). Assistant Instructors (Warrant Officers and NCOs) were permitted to wear a white cover over the forage cap. The white covers were to be provided at public expense, according to the order. All ranks were to remove the red bands and white covers when walking out or on duty other than instructional. (source: Canadian Military Headquarters Order dated 19 Apr 1943
This is what you mean by historical precedent I take it:
Instructors - Artillery
In April 1943 CMHQ approved the wear of a red band around their forage cap (in the manner of staff officers in the First World War) by Instructors of Gunnery (officers). Assistant Instructors (Warrant Officers and NCOs) were permitted to wear a white cover over the forage cap. The white covers were to be provided at public expense, according to the order. All ranks were to remove the red bands and white covers when walking out or on duty other than instructional. (source: Canadian Military Headquarters Order dated 19 Apr 1943
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Edited PBI - one Patricia looks like another I'm afraid. Perhaps you can wear a red band around your hat so I can tell the difference?
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Like mentioned earlier, Forged (or forage? never figured that one out...) caps look nice with DEU's, at least ours do. I'm with the CGG, and though the berets do look nice, the forged cap looks even sharper. We wear it for internal parades and such, but when inter-regiment things happen and call for strict standards, we go back to berets. I personnaly like the forged cap better in DEUs. Mind you we still got Blues too, and they look pretty pretty nice with those too, and also we've got scarlets too, and other than a damn bearskin, its the only thing that'll fit with it 
As for the cap badge, NCO's are brass, officers are cloth. Well, it used to be brass anyways... now they only issue tin ones, and we have to get our own brass if we want it. I was lucky enough to be in before that happened, as a nice polished bass badge looks far better than tin ones.
As for the cap badge, NCO's are brass, officers are cloth. Well, it used to be brass anyways... now they only issue tin ones, and we have to get our own brass if we want it. I was lucky enough to be in before that happened, as a nice polished bass badge looks far better than tin ones.
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I saw an IG in cadpat with kaki forage cap this past weekend and thought it looked pretty sharp. Certainly no more "toolish" than a member of a highland unit wearing a balmoral or glengarry with dress of the day. They are all part of the heritage of the Canadian Army and I think we should preserve what little heritage we have left.
For parade, I think the forage cap is far more practical than a beret for several reasons; the first, as someone else here mentioned, being that it keeps both sun and rain out of your eyes. The other that it returns the removal and replacement of head-dress on parade to a sharp-looking drill movement as opposed to the abomination it looks like now when performed with berets.
For parade, I think the forage cap is far more practical than a beret for several reasons; the first, as someone else here mentioned, being that it keeps both sun and rain out of your eyes. The other that it returns the removal and replacement of head-dress on parade to a sharp-looking drill movement as opposed to the abomination it looks like now when performed with berets.
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Ya, I was looking at my capbage, compared to others in my unit, even though mine isnt polished right now, it still looks better than the tin ones. Every letter is more defined and just looks like it was individually made, rather that pressed out of a bulk manufactuing machine.
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