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BMQ-L [Merged]

Hi All,

I've done a search, and while there are a couple threads that somewhat allude to this, there doesn't appear to be any difinitive answer to my question.
Just wondering how everyone would rate the physical demands of courses post-BMQ.
My main concern is what I can expect post-BMQ and going into BMQ-Land, and then eventually my trades training. My secondary purpose is to have this relatively new thread addressing this topic so that future forumites can search for it easily.

So maybe long time CF Pers can chime in on how they found their training over say the first two years of service.

Would you rate from hardest to easiest BMQ, BMQ-Land, MOC? Or maybe your experience was different?

Cheers!

 
How physically demanding your MOC (now called MOSID) training is depends on your trade.  A combat arms trade will be more physically demanding than say a RMS clerks training, due to the nature of their trade. So you might want to ask about your specific trade.
 
i doing it next week in Gagetown. other than the cold, what can you guys recommend me do to make it through 4 weeks of training. thank you guys
 
Qualtagh said:
i doing it next week in Gagetown. other than the cold, what can you guys recommend me do to make it through 4 weeks of training. thank you guys

Who cares what others have to say... bottom line:

LISTEN and DO what YOUR Course Staff tells you to do....
 
I came across a few trades that are of interest to me and they meet my vision requirements. They also have the Land Course Training. What is the Land Course Training? What does it prepare you for and why don't all NCM (Land) trades have it?

Trades of interest: Ammunition Tech, Army Communications and Information's System Specialist, Medical Tech, Vehicle Tech and Weapons Tech. I am also interested in EO Tech, but I am not sure if it's V4. It's not on the sheet I printed off with all the medical standards for each trade.

Which of these trades is most likely to see combat?

Thanks,
jaysfan17
 
BMQ-Land is hardly 4 months, but rather 4 weeks. It consists of a short period of theory and then you spend the majority of your time in the field conducting offensive and defensive tactics. All Army trades are required to take BMQ-L, however for trades that are employed in all 3 services (CA, RCN, and RCAF), if you are wearing an Army uniform - you'll be doing BMQ-L.
 
PRes BMQ(L) or SQ for infantry is no longer a stand alone course it is incorporated into the DP 1 Infantry course. All other PRes Army trades do SQ as a stand alone course and it's now only 12 training days.....
 
Ya Infantry only have BMQ and DP1, they removed a lot from the original SQ they no longer do (Grenade, M72 or C6)
 
I have indicated that I have a common law partner to the recruiter who just gave me my job offer over the phone and I am unclear on when she will be moved out to me after completing BMQ once the forces verifies our relationship.

I have used the search function and been presented with information suggesting that there is a second course to run immediately after BMQ either called DP1 or SQ. It is unclear to me which it is called, how log it runs, and what it covers.
If you can, please direct me to a current resource to learn about this second course.

Also, for my future wife's benefit, could you please explain to me if I will recieve my posting to a bat. before or after completing the second course. It is my understanding that when I recieve my posting is when my common law partner and my personal effects will be moved out to me.
Is the information i have attempted to piece together correct?

Thank you for your time
 
AllSmiles said:
I have indicated that I have a common law partner to the recruiter who just gave me my job offer over the phone and I am unclear on when she will be moved out to me after completing BMQ once the forces verifies our relationship.

Congrats.  Did the CFRC start your paperwork to have your common law status recognized?  Perhaps not if you were only speaking to them over the phone;  next opportunity you get, it might be worth while asking them if they will be doing the paperwork, and assisting you in getting it signed, or if that will be the function of a follow-on unit you go to for training/posting after training.

I have used the search function and been presented with information suggesting that there is a second course to run immediately after BMQ either called DP1 or SQ. It is unclear to me which it is called, how log it runs, and what it covers.

Its changed names a few times;  currently it is called BMQ-L (Basic Military Qualification - Land).  Below is the standard party line from the recruiting site on what happens on it.  Now that you know the name, you might try searching for it on here.  It was formerly called SQ (Soldier Qualification course), so info on that course name might also give you a good idea, or starting point, of what people's experience on it has been. 

After Basic Training, Army recruits go to a Military Training centre for the Basic Military Qualification - Land Course for approximately one month, which covers the following topics:
•Army Physical Fitness
•Dismounted Offensive and Defensive Operations
•Reconnaissance Patrolling
•Individual Field Craft

Also, for my future wife's benefit, could you please explain to me if I will recieve my posting to a bat. before or after completing the second course. It is my understanding that when I recieve my posting is when my common law partner and my personal effects will be moved out to me.
Is the information i have attempted to piece together correct?

Thank you for your time

Maybe someone currently posted to an Inf Bn can tell you how and when you get your Regimental posting decided.  I will GUESS that you get your Regiment posting at the end of/towards the end of BMQ.  As for your Battalion, I would guess that will be finalized during your basic infantry posting.  I say that because you might be told your going to one battalion, but get changed to another one.  Eithr way, not a bad thing to be ready for a last minute change as it has happened before.

On the 'when can my common law spouse move with me' part;  basically it will be after your basic infantry course (used to be called QL3, then BIQ - Basic Infantry Qualification course).  Then you will have attained something referred to as "Career Status" and will be able to move your D, HG & E at public expense.  D, HG & E is CAF abbrev's for Dependants, Household Goods & Effects.

So you can expect to do BMQ, then BMQ-L, then your basic infantry training, then get posted and if you have common law status recognized, you will be able to move her at public expense. 

Assuming you know of the possible posting locations already, if the recruiting center hasn't asked you what Regiment, battalion, location you want to go to, this is a good time to start talking about that with your significant other.  Understanding, of course, you might not get exactly what you'd prefer. 

Last point; don't be surprised if there are some delays between your BMQ and BMQ-L, or your BMQ-L and basic infantry courses.  It isn't uncommon for the start and end dates of each to not line up exactly. 

* Don't forget to ask about the common law status paperwork;  if you can get that done sooner than later, it will be one less thing for you to worry about as your training progresses.
 
Just so you know Regular Force Infantry do not do BMQ(Land), after BMQ they go straight to DP1 Infantry.
 
Pwegman said:
but the CAF website say the oposite .....(infantry soldier) . After Basic Training, Army recruits go to a Military Training centre for the Basic Military Qualification - Land Course for approximately one month, which covers the following topics:...  :facepalm:

They are not wrong... but SQ/BMQ-L is kinda like "infantry for non infantry trades". Everything covered on SQ/BMQ-L will be covered on your DP1 and then some.
We are all soldiers first, so all army (read land) personnel need SQ/BMQ-L to function effectively. (Some purple trades get this course too, like medics).

The thing to remember is your spouse, whether common-law or actually married, won't get to join you until you are done with DP1.
 
Hey, Just finishing BMQ and I go to BMQ-L in like a day. Wondering if anyone can give me a better explanation then just "Sleep dep". Wondering what the physical aspect is and what the daily routine looks like.

thanks,
 
Machine guns, grenades, ruck marches, digging holes, inspections and other stuff.

Maybe manpacks or maybe not, as they are their way out. Maybe the Carl G, they seem to have added it and taken it out of the TP multiple times over the last decade.
 
Do you become deployable (not mater how unlikely that is ) after BMQ-L/BMOQ-L?
 
TheSnake said:
Do you become deployable (not mater how unlikely that is ) after BMQ-L/BMOQ-L?

No.

You are not deployable until you reach the Operational Functional Point (OFP) for your military occupation, and reach a minimum of 18 years of age.
 
For PRes BMQ-L for the weekend how many weekends typical are we talking like 5-6 total ?
 
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