British Military Current Events

[daftandbarmy]

Meanwhile, all their trucks are now VOR.

Dust off the 4 tonners!

British Army forced to withdraw entire support lorry fleet over major safety flaw​

The British Army has withdrawn its complete inventory of MAN support lorries from use after a major safety flaw was discovered.

Inspectors came across a series of defective bolts, rendering the vehicles incapable of delivering fuel and food to personnel.

The withdrawal of 6,000 vehicles forced commanders to abandon exercise Titan Storm on Salisbury Plain.

These lorries, capable of transporting loads ranging from six to 15 tonnes, serve as the military's primary logistics vehicles across virtually all British Army and Royal Marines units.

Several vehicles have been operational for almost 20 years.
But with the Army's supply chain capabilities effectively scuppered, the Defence Safety Authority has ordered an urgent inspection.

Exercise Titan Storm had run into trouble already when when soldiers operating £10million-valued Ajax armoured vehicles started vomiting and shaking uncontrollably due to excessive noise and vibration.

Military personnel found themselves stranded after the double calamity - leaving commanders no alternative but to terminate the operation.

British Army forced to withdraw entire support lorry fleet over major safety flaw

The UK's supply lines have effectively been knocked out of action - with the Army now in a race against time to fix the flaw

www.gbnews.com

 

[dapaterson]

Meanwhile, all their trucks are now VOR.

Dust off the 4 tonners!

British Army forced to withdraw entire support lorry fleet over major safety flaw​

The British Army has withdrawn its complete inventory of MAN support lorries from use after a major safety flaw was discovered.

Inspectors came across a series of defective bolts, rendering the vehicles incapable of delivering fuel and food to personnel.

The withdrawal of 6,000 vehicles forced commanders to abandon exercise Titan Storm on Salisbury Plain.

These lorries, capable of transporting loads ranging from six to 15 tonnes, serve as the military's primary logistics vehicles across virtually all British Army and Royal Marines units.

Several vehicles have been operational for almost 20 years.
But with the Army's supply chain capabilities effectively scuppered, the Defence Safety Authority has ordered an urgent inspection.

Exercise Titan Storm had run into trouble already when when soldiers operating £10million-valued Ajax armoured vehicles started vomiting and shaking uncontrollably due to excessive noise and vibration.

Military personnel found themselves stranded after the double calamity - leaving commanders no alternative but to terminate the operation.

British Army forced to withdraw entire support lorry fleet over major safety flaw

The UK's supply lines have effectively been knocked out of action - with the Army now in a race against time to fix the flaw

www.gbnews.com

Anyone who has ever driven a British car is wondering why anyone is surprised.

 

[Kirkhill]

Per AI there have been no public reports of vibration problems with the original Pizarro/Ulans in Spanish and Austrian service.

ASCOD - Wikipedia

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ASCOD 2 - Wikipedia

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General Dynamics Ajax - Wikipedia

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M10 Booker - Wikipedia

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AI Overview



While vibration issues were reported for the UK's Ajax program, which is based on the same platform as the Pizarro, there have been no public reports of similar vibration problems from Spain or Austria. This is likely because Spain and Austria have been using the vehicle for a longer period, and the specific vibration issues may be linked to the particular variant and performance problems seen in the British program.
Spain and Austria: Spain and Austria have not reported vibration problems with their Pizarro vehicles.
UK Ajax program: The UK's Ajax program, which uses a variant of the Pizarro, experienced significant vibration issues that were a major concern, but the Spanish and Austrian users have not reported similar problems.
Platform and variants: The specific variant and performance issues of the UK's Ajax program are not necessarily indicative of the Spanish and Austrian Pizarro vehicles.


Pizarro 26.3 - 30 tonnes
Ulan 28 tonnes
Hunter 29.5 tonnes on Soucy rubber tracks
Booker 38-42 tonnes on steel tracks
Ajax 38-42 tonnes on steel tracks

Booker and Ajax have both been trialled on Soucy tracks with noticeable reductions on sound and vibration but tradition won out and steel tracks adopted.

The Latvians appear to have gone with the rubber tracks, reduced the weight back to Pizarro/Ulan levels and discarded the sponsons.

They also adopted an Elbit RWS turret with a 30x173 mm Bushmaster Mk44

 

[daftandbarmy]

Anyone who has ever driven a British car is wondering why anyone is surprised.

The Bedford 4 tonner was thoroughly reliable, and an excellent all terrain vehicle

 

[Eaglelord17]

Anyone who has ever driven a British car is wondering why anyone is surprised.

The plus side to British vehicles is it makes really good technicians out of you

 

[FJAG]

Anyone who has ever driven a British car is wondering why anyone is surprised.

As the prior owner of a Triumph Spitfire and a Mini, I can testify to this.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Flippin' 'eck...

Heard the one about troops facing a court martial if they keep telling dirty jokes?​

Risque and sexual humour has been banned by the Armed Forces because senior commanders say it could be a form of harassment.

Troops who repeatedly tell dirty jokes or make sexualised comments face being disciplined or even court-martialled because their behaviour could be seen as ‘intimidatory and sexist’, The Mail on Sunday understands.

The move follows revelations from a Ministry of Defence survey which found more tha 60 per cent of female troops had been subjected to such jokes by male colleagues.

Troops face a court martial if they keep telling dirty jokes

The move follows revelations from a Ministry of Defence survey which found more tha 60 per cent of female troops had been subjected to such jokes by male colleagues.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Kirkhill]

Aye, and Brit lasses are such shrinking violets.

 

[daftandbarmy]

More on the Ajax debacle from an insider...


I am an anonymous General Dynamics Employee (ex army) I've seen your recent post about the AJAX. The project being 8 years overdue is not even half of it:

- Vehicles regularly come off the production line with circa 150 faults on them.

- We can't even build the vehicles to meet the test standard which we came up with ourselves. If the Army finds too many failures they will either change the test so that the vehicle passes every time or the management will scurry off to the civil servants from DE&S that work on site to ask them to sign a "concession" for the vehicle to leave the factory and arrive at it's new unit with said faults on the vehicle (even though it's brand new).

- We have working for us a number of ex army guys, one a them an ex REME ******* who's sole job seems to be to argue with the soldiers when they find faults with the vehicles and try to find a way of telling them they're wrong and essentially get us (General Dynamics) out of fixing the vehicle

- General Dynamics upper management set impossible targets which we fail to meet ourselves, even after reducing the target a few times before the deadline. What the impact of this on the soldiers on site is that in December for example (our most recent missed target) was they forced the soldiers to wait around on site for approx 16 hours a day just so that they could sign off any faults as and when we repair them, failing this our managers would get the spineless morons from the civil service would just sign a concession (meaning the tank can leave our factory and go to the army with faults still on it)

- I hear that a large portion of the relatively small team of soldiers have signed off, the unit is about the size of a platoon and it seems that most of the guys I speak to have had enough.

- General Dynamics management will force the whole team of soldiers to come in all weekend at a moments notice just because we have 1 guy working overtime.

- As an ex soldier myself seeing how General Dynamics management abuse the fact that soldiers essentially don't have any employment rights is painful to watch, if the Soldiers refuse to work ridiculous hours of overtime or multiple weekends straight our senior managers who have the email addresses of high up officers in Army HQ will directly contact them and force the soldiers into work.

- Sometimes when a vehicle has passed inspection and the Army now owns it, our low level managers at General Dynamics will encourage us to rob parts off it to repair one that has failed an inspection.

- I felt the need to write this to you as an ex army guy myself I think that the actions of the company I work for (General Dynamics) towards the soldiers are completely wrong and they are also robbing the tax payer.