CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]

[TCM621]

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The way it was explained to me is your spec pay is calculated based on time in MOSID. This was frustrating for me because I am Cpl 4(previous time in another trade) about to get spec pay upon completion of QL5, and I would have been bumped to Cpl 2 spec 1.

I am delighted to see this is not the case, and I will bump over to Cpl 4 Spec 1.

Thanks for the clarifying information.

Here is the relevant CBI 204 para.

204.03(5) (Rate of pay - occupational career progression) A non-commissioned member who progresses in their occupational career shall be paid the rate of pay established in the senior Military Occupational Structure Identification (MOSID) in a specialist occupation, for the pay increment and qualifying service for their rank pertaining to the sum of:
a.the pay increment for their rank in the higher trade group that is nearest to, but not less than, the rate of pay the member was receiving on the day immediately prior to meeting the conditions the senior MOSID; and
b.the qualifying service accumulated in the junior MOSID of the same occupation for the member’s present rank, including any acting rank, (italics mine)

There was a bunch of grievances over this a couple years ago. Ottawa had been applying para a and only applying para b. Some of us got a nice check in the mail over that.

 

[brihard]

I'm about to join up for a specialist 1 trade (cyber op). On the specialist pay list, it says that spec pay applies to Cpl and higher ranks.

Does that mean that there is an automatic promotion to Cpl when trade training is complete? Also, prior to completing trade training, will I stay at the bottom Pvt pay step?

Thanks for clearing things up.

Bear in mind that as part of being a recruit, the CAF will be paying you a salary and benefits while also sending you to and paying for a pretty decent college program with considerable transferable skills. So while your spec pay may not kick in til you get Corporal around the 4 year mark, you'll be getting very considerable value for money out of your first few years. Also as a new private you're still very much learning the job. Think of it as almost being an apprentice.

When you look at the pay tables, in the row for 'Private', you move up in pay one step each year from your date of enrollment. You're not stuck at the bottom of the private pay scale- movement within a rank's pay levels is not dependent on completion of training or qualifications, it's strictly time in.

All in all, the Cyber Op trade with spec pay and a paid college program looks like a pretty good deal. And I can think of a couple federal agencies that are probably salivating at the prospect of poaching trained and experienced cyber operators in a few years time.