Can a Private be sent home from Afghanistan for drinking?

[sheppie]

Hi
I am not in the military but have many people I know that are. 

Long story short, a young private over there since Feb.....may have been caught drinking and being disorderly XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
There is talk that he will be sent home.  Is this for real?  Can they do this?  How serious is this?

Edited by Vern to remove the OPSEC. PM inbound to poster.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Yes, yes and yes.

And listen to what Vern says in her PM.

 

[PuckChaser]

You're allowed 2 beer per month issued only by the CQ of your unit and when there is approval from TFA Comd. We had approx 5 beer nights. It is any otherwise dry operational area, and the person in question, if found guilty at a summary trial, can and probably will be sent home because of it.

 

[sheppie]

Oh ok sorry should have known better on that one. I just wanted to put out the facts.
I am confused though, are they not desperate of bodies over there and this person has a serious job but was on leave at the time of the alleged incident.  We await news that he may be headed home. I cannot believe this for a singular incident....

 

[Sig_Des]

Is this for real?

Don't know about this specific instance, but Yes.

Can they do this?

Very much so

How serious is this?

Depends. Did he break laws where he was? Is he being charged under the NDA? And if he's been punted off tour, I'd imagine they're looking at it pretty seriously.

Lucky he's not being charged under the Host Nation's criminal code.

In addition to this, by telling you were he was, he very well could have commited a crime under the NDA by breaching Operational Security.

Why are people always surprised that there are consequences for actions?

 

[armyvern]

Specificly, 2 beer/man/day.

Yes. For real. Those are the rules set out for that mission. Any more than that and it is a chargeable offense. As is drunk and disorderly. And either/or/or both are certainly grounds for repatriation back here to Canada should circumstances and the specifics of the incident warrant such a move.

Any soldier -- is well aware of those rules. It's possibility certainly shouldn't come as a shock to the soldier involved. Maybe shocking to you -- but certainly not the soldier.

 

[Sig_Des]

but was on leave at the time of the alleged incident

Doesn't matter. Is still under the NDA while on leave, and potentially broke laws.

I cannot believe this for a singular incident....

Would you believe receiving lashes under certain countries laws for a drunk and disorderly?

 

[sheppie]

I am not surprised for actions possibly taken against him.  I guess I am naive enough to think that if the job over there is a very neccesary one that this person has been well trained to do, then they would rap his wrists and perahps withhold any promotions for awhile in order to keep a skilled person such as this.

 

[Sig_Des]

I guess I am naive enough to think that if the job over there is a very neccesary one that this person has been well trained to do, then they would rap his wrists and perahps withhold any promotions for awhile in order to keep a skilled person such as this.

If the job is so necessary, he should be mature enough to know better.

And if the Host Nation in question says that person is no longer welcome, well, not much can be done to keep him there.

 

[sheppie]

Wow wow wow....ok.  My eyes are opened now.  
Yes I am certain he knew of this and so be it if he screwed up.
I call it a tough break.  But so young....and no mistakes allowed seems so heavy.

I had told his people back here that perhaps this would all be a wash.
Looks like I will eat crow on this one.+

 

[armyvern]

Oh ok sorry should have known better on that one. I just wanted to put out the facts.
I am confused though, are they not desperate of bodies over there and this person has a serious job but was on leave at the time of the alleged incident.  We await news that he may be headed home. I cannot believe this for a singular incident....

YES. He broke the Host Nation law (which he WOULD have received briefings on) AND military law.

Why not?? He happens to have disobeyed a direct and lawful order? He swore to follow and obey lawful authority. He chose not to.


As someone's already stated -- he should be thanking his butt cheeks that the HN didn't grab onto him -- then he'd REALLY be hurting, with no one to blame but himself.

 

[sheppie]

Thank you for your honesty.
At least now we know what may happen.

 

[RHFC_piper]

uh-oh... speculation... 

 

[armyvern]

uh-oh... speculation...   

Only because you're seeing it AFTER the OPSEC was removed.

But, now it's answered and so can be locked up. 

ArmyVern
The Milnet.ca Staff

 

[combat_medic]

and no mistakes allowed seems so heavy

It's the army. We're like that. We defend democracy, we don't practice it.