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CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

I don’t share your optimism. The longer Americans wait to remove him, the more lawful functionaries he can purge & the more anti-constitutional sycophants he can appoint. The more checks & balances he can subjugate.
I’m hoping that the worm turns after the 100 days are over.
 
Well, Singh is back up on his soapbox. He's using all his "We can't bring down the government until I get a deal for workers" shtick. i'm pretty sure we're back to square one when the House decides to get back to work. The motion of No Confidence will be scuttled by the orange liberals again, voting to keep the incompetent and dishonest Carney government in place. We are our own worst enemy. Singh has never been able to read a room.

Someone just shoot me now.

I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to an unfortunate choice of wording, but this is a heck of a thread to say “we are our own worst enemy”.

Now that the tariffs have actually been imposed: as a Canadian, and as Trump’s most outspoken and steadfast supporter on this site, do you support his policy choice to impose tariffs on Canada? And has your personal support of him changed at all?
 
I don’t share your optimism. The longer Americans wait to remove him, the more lawful functionaries he can purge & the more anti-constitutional sycophants he can appoint. The more checks & balances he can subjugate.
The Republican party controls both houses, unless they break ranks, he aint getting impeached, after the midterms maybe
 
Well, Singh is back up on his soapbox. He's using all his "We can't bring down the government until I get a deal for workers" shtick. i'm pretty sure we're back to square one when the House decides to get back to work. The motion of No Confidence will be scuttled by the orange liberals again, voting to keep the incompetent and dishonest Carney government in place. We are our own worst enemy. Singh has never been able to read a room.

Someone just shoot me now.


CERB2.0 incoming.
 
When this whole ordeal kicked off Canada probably should have started with: "We are immediately legislating and approving, including an initial investment, of an energy corridor from coast to coast to coast. We want industry to come to the table to take this on right now."

Taking American booze off the shelf is such shallow thinking. But I guess that is easier than building some tubes in three directions across a territory that isn't on the same unity page.

Sure. All you need to do is get Quebec on board.

While we're fiddle fucking around with them, make it a national priority to get Churchill on line and ship the oil to New Brunswick. Make it happen this year. There should be thousands of able bodied unemployed workers to swarm a project like this.
 
Did someone just blink?


I can only imagine how much the phone lines were blowing up at the Whitehouse today with extremely angry industry leaders on the other end.
 
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to an unfortunate choice of wording, but this is a heck of a thread to say “we are our own worst enemy”.

Now that the tariffs have actually been imposed: as a Canadian, and as Trump’s most outspoken and steadfast supporter on this site, do you support his policy choice to impose tariffs on Canada? And has your personal support of him changed at all?

I gave you an answer, but it was removed for some reason. I can't be bothered to repeat it.
 
I gave you an answer, but it was removed for some reason. I can't be bothered to repeat it.
I saw it.

There was no “bullying”, “bullshit”, “innuendo”, or “chest poking” as you put it. Just two straightforward questions. They were pointed, but were asked in good faith, because I believe that you’ve probably found the present circumstances challenging. I respect your answer that you’ve been rethinking, and your silence on it while doing so. It’s been noticeable and I wondered if it was that.

While I asked bluntly, there’s no aggression in it and I’m not picking a fight. More just trying to get a finger on the pulse of what Canadians who have historically supported Trump are thinking and feeling right now.
 
Sure. All you need to do is get Quebec on board.

While we're fiddle fucking around with them, make it a national priority to get Churchill on line and ship the oil to New Brunswick. Make it happen this year. There should be thousands of able bodied unemployed workers to swarm a project like this.
I've been reading quite a bit of Quebec news lately (oddly enough). Quebec is having a "Oh yah, this is why we created this country" moment right now. History doesn't repeat but its rhyming for Lower Canada at present.

Get the champagne ready? Trump may walk back Wednesday

Haha no, I don't believe that for a hot minute. This is the same guy who said we're probably going to get less tariffs two days ago and then they went full 25%.. If the go to 20% or 15% I'll be shocked honestly. We'll have to see what Mexico's announced response will be.

Reading the G&M article on the same, Lutnick stated to Ford that some of the statements coming out of Canada are personal attacks on the president, particularly from the PM. And we know what DJ has a very thin skin. Going after him personally is only going to make this harder in the end. Despite Canadians loving the criticism.

You can say all the blunt instrument things you need to without making it personal. Canada will not buckle to tariffs, we will fight back, this policy will hurt Americans, Americans are our friends and we don't get it. We're working hard to fix the fentynal problem and are working with US border services to see what they need to make this work. etc.... But don't tell the President hes dumb, or that hes the problem.

Doug Ford needs to reign himself in, he's not a diplomat he's a liability. And Trudeu should have learned from the last trade negotiations that DJ's temper turned our trade negotiations into problems after he criticized Trump at some other event (He stabbed me in the back or somesuch was Trumps statement) after the hug offensive was working, undoing all that work because he can't keep his mouth shut.

This election can't come soon enough, we need to change the players federally even if the Libs are in power again, at least they will have a different face. Problem is the election campaign will be all about attacking Trump and that can't be good for negotiations.
 
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