CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[QV]

I wouldn't discount the possibility of any province leaving confederation, to go it alone or join the union.

I estimate that an uncertain future, a history of national apathy, and ton of economic pain followed by a sweetened offer that would change all that could shift a lot of opinions.

 

[Remius]

If Alberta leaves the country will crumble. The whole thing is a house cards right now.

That’s what they said about Brexit.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

JFHC!

What?

 

[brihard]

Hey, a province can hold a referendum if they like, but that doesn't mean that they can do whatever they want if they win. Constitutional changes require a popular vote by Canadians, or that it be passed by 7 out of 10 provinces having over 50% of the population.

That’s only one of several amending formulas. I’d suggest the more appropriate one would be s.43, requiring majority votes in the House of Commons, the Senate, and the province in question.

The federal Clarity Act also speaks the process by which an individual province could hold a referendum for secession. It states that negotiation involving Parliament and all provinces would be required, but doesn’t expressly state which amending formula would be in play.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Bullying cases the Bank of England have jumped under Mark Carney

There were between 21 and 39 formal probes into bullying and harassment between the Canadian’s appointment in July 2013 and June this year, a freedom of information request has revealed.

www.thisismoney.co.uk

• Mark Carney, mentioned in the post, was the Governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020, making him a significant figure in international finance.
  
  
• The post references a news article from the Belfast Telegraph about an increase in bullying and harassment cases at the Bank of England during Carney's tenure, highlighting a controversial aspect of his leadership.
  
  
• The mention of Carney in the context of voting suggests political implications, possibly referring to his potential involvement in Canadian politics or public opinion on his previous roles.
  
  

 

[QV]

So now we can with confidence see the immediate tariff threat is strictly related to border fentanyl.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884663127930708238

 

[Kirkhill]

What?

JesusFHChrist.

 

[Kirkhill]

So now we can with confidence see the immediate tariff threat is strictly related to border fentanyl.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884663127930708238

I am gonna guess and suggest the problem isn't foot traffic and private vehicles but scanning containers at ports of entry like Vancouver?

 

[Czech_pivo]

I am gonna guess and suggest the problem isn't foot traffic and private vehicles but scanning containers at ports of entry like Vancouver?

Folks it’s between 34-43 pounds of Fentanyl captured at the US land border coming from Canada in 2024.
Mexico?
Over 21,000 pounds in comparison.

 

[Brad Sallows]

If a province really wants out and says, "We're out", what is it you think Canada is going to do? Fight to keep them in?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Folks it’s between 34-43 pounds of Fentanyl captured at the US land border coming from Canada in 2024.
Mexico?
Over 21,000 pounds in comparison.

34-43 pounds is what was caught.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I am gonna guess and suggest the problem isn't foot traffic and private vehicles but scanning containers at ports of entry like Vancouver?

I think that would be precursor chemicals, not finished fentanyl.

 

[Czech_pivo]

34-43 pounds is what was caught.

So you think that the Americans are too stupid to miss something along the same magnitude of what they caught on the Mexico border?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So you think that the Americans are too stupid to miss something along the same magnitude of what they caught on the Mexico border?

You're being overdramatic. I'm saying it's a long unattended border. We're not just talking of a few bricks of pure stuff. It's in pills, heroin and they've even found it in weed, which makes it from BC to Washington by the ton. Mexico is going to find itself pretty squeezed for crossing points. They are naturally going to gravitate to easier entry points. The biggest lab busted in Canada was 30 miles from the Buffalo crossing. Perhaps it's time to start performing exit checks on a daily basis.

 

[Czech_pivo]

You're being overdramatic. I'm saying it's a long unattended border. We're not just talking of a few bricks of pure stuff. It's in pills, heroin and they've even found it in weed, which makes it from BC to Washington by the ton. Mexico is going to find itself pretty squeezed for crossing points. They are naturally going to gravitate to easier entry points. The biggest lab busted in Canada was 30 miles from the Buffalo crossing. Perhaps it's time to start performing exit checks on a daily basis.

I’m 100% in favour of nailing the illegal drug trade here in Canada.
But are we willing to through back the covers and see what in revealed in places like Akwesasne and such?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Carney has no interest in being the PM of Canada beyond the next election​

Carney has no interest in being the PM of Canada beyond the next election - Easton Spectator

Carney will impose the full WEF agenda on Canada, including digital currency and renamed carbon tax

www.eastonspectator.com

snip< Carney has no interest in being the PM of Canada beyond the next election. Carney will win the leadership campaign and will become the PM without a seat in Parliament. He will have a deal with the NDP to support the Liberals. He will then declare an economic emergency due to the Trump tariff proposals and use that to defer the next election another year to October 2026 (under the Constitution). During that time, Carney will impose the full WEF agenda on Canada, including digital currency and renamed carbon tax. He will resign before that election and leave Canada as the first post-national state. It will be a disaster for Canada!! Mark “Carney” my words!! >snip


I certainly hope not, but it's the liberals so........

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I’m 100% in favour of nailing the illegal drug trade here in Canada.
But are we willing to through back the covers and see what in revealed in places like Akwesasne and such?

I'm all for it. Probably can't do much about the land, but they don't own the water. We just need lots of boats to blockade them.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Latest tea leaves: potential for oil carve out? We'll see ...

Trump says Canada tariffs coming Saturday, ‘may not’ include oil | Globalnews.ca

Trump said he would likely decide by the end of the day Thursday whether to put a 25 per cent tariff on Canadian oil imports that would take effect on Saturday.

globalnews.ca

Also archived here.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Latest tea leaves: potential for oil carve out? We'll see ...

It's hard to do the headless chicken dance when the DJ keeps changing the music.

 

[brihard]

Latest tea leaves: potential for oil carve out? We'll see ...

Trump says Canada tariffs coming Saturday, ‘may not’ include oil | Globalnews.ca

Trump said he would likely decide by the end of the day Thursday whether to put a 25 per cent tariff on Canadian oil imports that would take effect on Saturday.

globalnews.ca

Also archived here.

Well sure. Why wouldn’t he exempt Canada’s single greatest export to the US whilst purporting to be mad about the trade deficit?