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CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

Remember it isn’t a liquor ban, it is certain provinces alcohol monopolies just not buying American liquor, a distinct difference.

Seeing as many of my coworkers and friends have lost their jobs and my job was put at risk, directly due to Americas games with steel tariffs, I am not exactly in the mood to be accommodating them.

THEY should be the ones coming to the table with concessions and a apology not the other way around.

Anything else seems like the peace in our time declaration.
 
Seems like the Brits are next up in the cross hairs on the Digital Services Tax ......

www.cnbc.com

Trump warns of ‘big tariff’ if UK doesn’t drop digital services tax on U.S. tech firms

The tax is a 2% levy on the revenues of search engines, social media services and online marketplaces that derive value from U.K. users.
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  • Trump has threatened to impose steep tariffs on the U.K. unless it drops its digital services tax on U.S. tech companies.
  • The tax is a 2% levy on the revenues of search engines, social media services and online marketplaces that derive value from U.K. users.
  • “If they don’t drop the tax, we’ll probably put a big tariff on the U.K.,” Trump said.

Trump is basically telling the US, you don't have any right to tax any US corporation. This has nothing, nothing to do with trade as I see it, the American 'consumer' is not getting 'ripped off', American manufacturing is not be sent away to another country. Its about taxing a US corporation.
 
Czech_pivo said:
  • The tax is a 2% levy on the revenues of search engines, social media services and online marketplaces that derive value from U.K. users.
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It's also, as stated, a tax on revenues, not on profits. That alone would be a sticking point.
 
HavokFour said:

Trump offers immediate tariff relief to Canadian aluminum and steel companies that commit to U.S. expansion​


Riddle me this, how does one move the lakes and rivers powering the aluminum smelters? They're the entire reason it's both cheap and viable up here.

This "offer" was also extended to Mexico.

The US is already having issues just powering all the datacenters being built, in both power generation and the overall sorry state of the electrical grid countrywide.
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I think I saw it posted here, but I'll say it anyways.

Trump put tariffs on Canadian Aluminium. Made it expensive. We shifted our trade to Europe. America bought their Aluminium from the gulf states as a result.

Now that the strait of Hormuz is closed...
 

Carney says there's only 'one negotiator' with the U.S. after Conservative MP's latest trip to Washington​


Interesting bit at the tail end of this article, at an event that included Jivani and 39 others.

Unsurprisingly they do need something from Canada, and would very much rather that boat not be rocked.

The meeting lasted more than an hour, and the sources who were not authorized to speak publicly about what was said told CP that Greer also told attendees that the Trump administration is not looking to disrupt the energy relationship between the two countries.

According to the sources, Greer said the United States is looking to work with Canada on energy and critical minerals development in ways that are mutually beneficial.

Greer also said Canada should not attempt to use those resources as leverage during the upcoming review of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement, the sources said.
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Obviously, only the US is allowed to go after resources as a means of leverage. Aluminum and softwood can be tariffed, but Canada better not think to stand up for itself.
 
Czech_pivo said:
Geer can go pound salt and eat some lead paint chips.
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Indeed.

“According to the sources, Greer said the United States is looking to work with Canada on energy and critical minerals development in ways that are mutually beneficial.

Greer also said Canada should not attempt to use those resources as leverage during the upcoming review of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement, the sources said.”

They chose to make everything transactional; they can transact. If there’s a better deal to be made over resources we have and they want, they can come to the table with a reasonable offer. Blowing up a relationship based on decades of largely very free trade has consequences. Nobody else is making them come to the table with threats to CUSMA.
 
brihard said:
Indeed.

“According to the sources, Greer said the United States is looking to work with Canada on energy and critical minerals development in ways that are mutually beneficial.

Greer also said Canada should not attempt to use those resources as leverage during the upcoming review of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement, the sources said.”

They chose to make everything transactional; they can transact. If there’s a better deal to be made over resources we have and they want, they can come to the table with a reasonable offer. Blowing up a relationship based on decades of largely very free trade has consequences. Nobody else is making them come to the table with threats to CUSMA.
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We need to wake up to the fact that the US is going to move forward, if at all possible, to pull in oil from VZ and replace oil from Alberta over the medium term. They will do this from a price factor, as they'll be able to get it even cheaper than our oil, from a leverage factor over VZ going forward and to also box China even more into a corner. The sooner people here realise this - and by people I mean those everyday Canadians, not the Politicians, the sooner we can build another 1.5+m bpd oil pipeline to the sea. Our oil exports to the US will never completely go away but they could easily move downward from 4+m bpd to the 2.5-3m range, with an ever higher discount today against the world price.

The need to push from our centre to our coastlines - both west, HB and east - as much of our raw resources as possible has to be made apparent to the average Canadian. The more potential trade partners, willing buyers at world prices, that we have outside of the US, the better the entire country will be overall.
 
Czech_pivo said:
We need to wake up to the fact that the US is going to move forward, if at all possible, to pull in oil from VZ and replace oil from Alberta over the medium term. They will do this from a price factor, as they'll be able to get it even cheaper than our oil, from a leverage factor over VZ going forward and to also box China even more into a corner. The sooner people here realise this - and by people I mean those everyday Canadians, not the Politicians, the sooner we can build another 1.5+m bpd oil pipeline to the sea. Our oil exports to the US will never completely go away but they could easily move downward from 4+m bpd to the 2.5-3m range, with an ever higher discount today against the world price.

The need to push from our centre to our coastlines - both west, HB and east - as much of our raw resources as possible has to be made apparent to the average Canadian. The more potential trade partners, willing buyers at world prices, that we have outside of the US, the better the entire country will be overall.
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We need a pipeline to Churchill, an oil terminal and a few icebreakers.

Year round oil to europe
 
Altair said:
We need a pipeline to Churchill, an oil terminal and a few icebreakers.

Year round oil to europe
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I would need people smarter than me to advise whether year-round passage is even practical. Certainly, I assume it would add a premium to the cost of the product, both for shipping and cold weather handling.
 
So the US slaps a flat 10% tariff against almost all goods from the UK, as well as implements quotas in certain industries and the result is 1yr later.....

www.cnbc.com

UK exports to U.S. plunge by 25% after Trump's 'liberation day' tariffs blitz

The U.K. is now running a trade deficit with its largest trading partner.
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UK exports to U.S. plunge by 25% after Trump’s ‘liberation day’ tariffs blitz​


  • U.K. exports to the U.S. plunged around 25% after President Donald Trump’s “liberation day” tariffs in April last year.
  • The U.K. is now running a trade deficit with its largest trading partner.
Goods exports to the United States, excluding precious metals, fell by £1.5 billion, or 24.7%, following the introduction of tariffs, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said Friday.

The statistics body added that car exports from the U.K. to the States have also fallen since then and now languish below pre-tariff levels in the 12 months since April 2025.

Last year, the U.K. became the first country to secure a trade deal with the Trump administration after the president’s so-called liberation day tariffs were unveiled, which upended global markets in turn. The terms of the deal included a 10% blanket tariff on goods imported to the United States.

So, did the UK 'win' or 'lose' in its rush to be the first to sign a new trade deal with its 'special relationship' partner?
 
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