Halifax Tar
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Imagine if he came back with the tariffs dropped...
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Imagine if he came back with the tariffs dropped...
HavokFour
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Then I'd question what exactly what was offered/promised in return to the now very transactional government to our south, because he doesn't have any authority to make those calls.
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People are getting their panties all in a twist about him going down there. Who cares?
How many US Senators and Congressperson's have come up here over the last 12 months meeting with our politicians all talking about the need for the tariffs to come down and how bad Trump is and how much they are in favour and support our 'special' relationship. Has ANY of that done any good for us or the US?
The guy wants to go down and meet with his former college roommate and talk about the good old days when they drank beers out of red plastic solo cups and played numerous games of Beer Pong, great, go ahead. I don't care. Its completely within his rights to go down there and do so as a MP.
We could imagine it, sure, but the U.S. trade envoy has said unequivocally that there is not a ‘no tariffs’ option.
As I and others have said, status quo CUSMA is already the best deal we can possibly get with this guy, and we need to tag the puck and protect it. The other tariffs outside of CUSMA such as on metals don’t offer a lot of room to manoeuvre for our side.
We are not dealing with a trade partner interested in mutually beneficial exchange, just their own maximalist position based on a poor and inaccurate understanding of the economics of tariffs and trade.
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Go read over the sobering stats that I posted earlier today that the UK is facing now with the US.
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Here's another example of Trump making a deal with someone - in the example, the EU - only to decide on his own to 'tweak' the deal again because he's not happy with something. It totally begs the question that has been asked numerous times in the past - what's the point of even having a deal in the first place?
www.cnbc.com
Trump says he's raising EU auto tariffs to 25% without clarifying how
The Supreme Court struck down Trump's "reciprocal" tariffs earlier this year, and Europe warned that its trade deal with Washington could be in jeopardy.
www.cnbc.com
Trump says he’s raising EU auto tariffs to 25% without clarifying how
- President Donald Trump said on Truth Social that he would increase the tariff rate on EU cars and trucks to 25%.
- The president didn’t say what authority he would use to increase the levies.
- The Supreme Court struck down Trump’s “reciprocal” tariffs earlier this year, and Europe warned that its trade deal with Washington could be in jeopardy
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So the US slaps a flat 10% tariff against almost all goods from the UK, as well as implements quotas in certain industries and the result is 1yr later.....
UK exports to U.S. plunge by 25% after Trump's 'liberation day' tariffs blitz
The U.K. is now running a trade deficit with its largest trading partner.
UK exports to U.S. plunge by 25% after Trump’s ‘liberation day’ tariffs blitz
Goods exports to the United States, excluding precious metals, fell by £1.5 billion, or 24.7%, following the introduction of tariffs, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said Friday.
- U.K. exports to the U.S. plunged around 25% after President Donald Trump’s “liberation day” tariffs in April last year.
- The U.K. is now running a trade deficit with its largest trading partner.
The statistics body added that car exports from the U.K. to the States have also fallen since then and now languish below pre-tariff levels in the 12 months since April 2025.
Last year, the U.K. became the first country to secure a trade deal with the Trump administration after the president’s so-called liberation day tariffs were unveiled, which upended global markets in turn. The terms of the deal included a 10% blanket tariff on goods imported to the United States.
So, did the UK 'win' or 'lose' in its rush to be the first to sign a new trade deal with its 'special relationship' partner?
These deals are not trade deals with the USA, they are trade deals with trump, the individual.Here's another example of Trump making a deal with someone - in the example, the EU - only to decide on his own to 'tweak' the deal again because he's not happy with something. It totally begs the question that has been asked numerous times in the past - what's the point of even having a deal in the first place?
Trump says he's raising EU auto tariffs to 25% without clarifying how
The Supreme Court struck down Trump's "reciprocal" tariffs earlier this year, and Europe warned that its trade deal with Washington could be in jeopardy.
Trump says he’s raising EU auto tariffs to 25% without clarifying how
- President Donald Trump said on Truth Social that he would increase the tariff rate on EU cars and trucks to 25%.
- The president didn’t say what authority he would use to increase the levies.
- The Supreme Court struck down Trump’s “reciprocal” tariffs earlier this year, and Europe warned that its trade deal with Washington could be in jeopardy
They are not ratified by congress. They have no dispute mechanisms. And as such, trump can change them on a whim.
Anyone, everyone who advocated for this and anyone who signed a deal with him was a world class idiot.
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It will be interesting to see if Congress flips in November if Congress takes it upon itself to nullify these 'trade deals' and go back to the status quo before Trump started his campaign of 'winning'.
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What trade deals?
They never went before congress? They are deals signed by trump and trump only.
If Congress even tries to set a tariff rate by itself, trump can probably veto it.
Otherwise, there is nothing congress can do because congress didnt set the tariff rates
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Nice.
So, what legality do these deals really have? Once Trump is no longer President, can the 'deal' even be held in place?
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Nope. They are executive actions and can and will be undone by the next administration.
Nothing trump is doing is codified by congress. To sign a deal with him is folly. He can and will change it on a whim and they die the day he leaves office.
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The same legality any executive action has until Congress acts to interfere with it or someone successfully brings a challenge to it before a court or the executive (or a succeeding executive) changes it - it goes forward until it's stopped. A Trump tariff is essentially the same as a JCPOA.
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Oh, so like the Budapest Agreement? So the EU and/or the UK can basically just ignore it completely after Trump is gone.
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It's somehow weaker than the budapest agreement.
The budapest agreement, while not worth the paper it was written on, existed until it didn't
These deals wont survice a week after trump is gone.
And once it's dead on the US side, it's dead on the other sides as well.
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Yep. Except for whatever the next administration continues, the smart strategy has always been to just wait Trump out.
