CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[markppcli]

Both sides said thenother side brought last minutes changes to the deal.
Dealers odds are it being the Americans but our government is hardly deserving of "just trust us".

I mean the specific clauses. No US official has denied the specific clauses. I could care less when these were I produced or not.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I mean the specific clauses. No US official has denied the specific clauses. I could care less when these were I produced or not.

I'm not sure. I just see both sides blaming the other side.with livelihoods and $20b on the line Canadians deserve to see what's being negotiated on their behalf.

 

[McG]

“As Trump has declared over and over again, his ultimate goal in this trade war is to add Canada as a 51st state.”

“Against Canada, Trump is fighting a trade war that very few Americans support, under leadership that most Americans reject, to achieve results that virtually all Americans would dismiss as pointless if not crazy.”

How to Lose a Trade War

Trump’s bullying of Canada is failing.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Good2Golf]

WTF is Liberal MP Anthony Housefather doing campaigning in Florida a few days ago for a democratic candidate in the mid terms? Seriously?

If a republican did that up here, some of you would literally explode with anger.

How about we watch our steps here and not get our asses handed to us?

Is that worse than Jamil Jivani having a university bro-fest a couple of time with the Veep and doing a drive-by howdy in the Oval office?

 

[McG]

Jivani seems to be alienating his own.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091626089760395651

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091322616925897004

 

[Jarnhamar]

Jivani joins Gladu and the rest of the floor crossing MPs demonstrating why constituents should have a mechanism to call a by election.

 

[Altair]

Jivani joins Gladu and the rest of the floor crossing MPs demonstrating why constituents should have a mechanism to call a by election.

Or, PP can be a leader and turf him.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Or, PP can be a leader and turf him.

I'd rather see people who voted for him fire him rather than a party leader do it. Seems more democratic.

 

[Altair]

I'd rather see people who voted for him fire him rather than a party leader do it. Seems more democratic.

He would still be an MP. Still be in parliament, still collect his salary.

He wouldn't be getting fired by any metric.

 

[Jarnhamar]

He would still be an MP. Still be in parliament, still collect his salary.

He wouldn't be getting fired by any metric.

If he loses a constituent initiated by-election he'll need to get a job somewhere else.

 

[Altair]

If he loses a constituent initiated by-election he'll need to get a job somewhere else.

The rebel would hire him in a heartbeat. Or some Vance linked consulting job in the states.

But if PP kicked him out of the CPC to sit as an independent, Jamil Jivani loses a lot of his credibility, and PP gets rid of an actual headache and a potential Brutus.

So of course Jivani is going to stick around.

 

[The Bread Guy]

If I were GoC king for a day, I’d hold off on announcing the type and scale of export taxes on resources ( ) until after 9/11 remembrance ceremonies, and the American 24-48 memory span still potentially remembers how Canada looked after all the Americans away from home when they not permitted to come back into their own country.

Fun fact: even right afterwards, the first list of countries thanked didn’t include Canada for some reason, so I suspect you have more faith in American collective memory than I do.

 

[Haggis]

Fun fact: even right afterwards, the first list of countries thanked didn’t include Canada for some reason, so I suspect you have more faith in American collective memory than I do.

If he does mention us on 9/11 it will probably be in the context of "loyalty and friendship to America deserving of statehood".

 

[The Bread Guy]

If he loses a constituent initiated by-election he'll need to get a job somewhere else.

Still doesn't stop the coach from kicking him off the team, leaving him as an independent MP.

Meanwhile, initial survey says: "Three-in-four Canadians are endorsing the Carney government’s decision to walk away from trade negotiations with the United States late Friday night, confirming that long-expressed national resolve and desire to see Canadian negotiators take a “hard line” with Washington was more than theoretical."

Resolve & apprehension: 76% say Canada was right to ditch trade talks, but two-in-five have fear for their jobs - Angus Reid Institute

angusreid.org

How it was done:

The Angus Reid Institute conducted an online survey from Aug. 22–23, 2026, among a randomized sample of 1,468 Canadian adults. Respondents are drawn from the Angus Reid Forum, a large-scale online panel developed to include Canadian residents in each of the 343 federal ridings in Canada and representative of the Canadian population by age, gender, family income, ethnic status and education. The sample was weighted to be representative of adults nationwide according to region, gender, age, household income, and education, based on the Canadian census. For comparison purposes only, a probability sample of this size would carry a margin of error of +/– 2 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. Discrepancies in or between totals are due to rounding. The survey was self-commissioned and paid for by ARI.

More in link and in attached PDF.