Canada doesn’t matter to the rest of the world - and it’s our own fault

[daftandbarmy]

I signed up in November and started my recruit course at the unit in February. I think back then they ran a course 2-3 times a year.

Dude, that was back when we could sign someone up on Tuesday and they'd be on the parade square in overalls on Thursday.

Things are 'different' now

 

[Rifleman62]

....it (Federal Government) doesn’t want to pay for the kit needed and won’t risk the votes when people die.

Hit the nail on the head. Pay big bucks for adequate kit vice freebees/giveaways (which they are not) and the loss of personnel due to poorly equipped military means losing votes.
I think if our military had modern, exceptional equipment it would interest people. When the media reports senior people stating that the military needs re-equipment, who wants to join a loser organization? Add the time, frustration to get enrolled and trained to basic trade qualification.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Dude, that was back when we could sign someone up on Tuesday and they'd be on the parade square in overalls on Thursday.

Things are 'different' now

Yes They've "improved" the system.

 

[Aper]

Hit the nail on the head. Pay big bucks for adequate kit vice freebees/giveaways (which they are not) and the loss of personnel due to poorly equipped military means losing votes.
I think if our military had modern, exceptional equipment it would interest people. When the media reports senior people stating that the military needs re-equipment, who wants to join a loser organization? Add the time, frustration to get enrolled and trained to basic trade qualification.

I think this is the biggest flaw of them all; the modernisation of equipments, vehicles and all-around structural procedures and bureaucratics that comes with a 21th century Army, which clearly we are not with having the military budget being lowered years after years thanks to the Liberals.

 

[FJAG]

Dude, that was back when we could sign someone up on Tuesday and they'd be on the parade square in overalls on Thursday.

Things are 'different' now

I signed up and was on the parade square the same night. Let's be honest, with BMQ, there's nothing that they teach you that makes you a threat to the country or even your peers. You could easily accommodate part-time recruit training while the process grinds on. There ought to be no reason for it too grind, however. It boggles my mind as to what they could possibly have done to a system that slows things down as much as it does. Even more so, it boggles my mind that after decades of having a clearly recognized problem that things haven't been improved. The fact that we're down 15,000 people is also not something that happened overnight. Covid or no covid, the system should have reacted to cure the problem as it developed.

 

[KevinB]

I signed up in November and started my recruit course at the unit in February. I think back then they ran a course 2-3 times a year.

I started my paperwork in Feb, was sworn in before April, and started my Recruit course in April.

Realistically all on should need is a criminal background check, with one’s birth certificate, drivers license and SIN.

 

[Brad Sallows]

with BMQ, there's nothing that they teach you that makes you a threat to the country or even your peers

Marching in formed groups. Makes people cry. Really, the armed forces ought to pay psychological damages for claims by people forced to witness a march past.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I started my paperwork in Feb, was sworn in before April, and started my Recruit course in April.

Realistically all on should need is a criminal background check, with one’s birth certificate, drivers license and SIN.

May, July, with SYEP. All paperwork at the unit as far as I could tell. 4 visits prior to commencement of GMT - initial, part I medical, part II, and swearing in. Medical part I at unit (a couple of the officers - infantry unit - were civvy nurses, and they had a couple of cas aides as well), part II at locally contracted doctor.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I signed up and was on the parade square the same night. Let's be honest, with BMQ, there's nothing that they teach you that makes you a threat to the country or even your peers. You could easily accommodate part-time recruit training while the process grinds on. There ought to be no reason for it too grind, however. It boggles my mind as to what they could possibly have done to a system that slows things down as much as it does. Even more so, it boggles my mind that after decades of having a clearly recognized problem that things haven't been improved. The fact that we're down 15,000 people is also not something that happened overnight. Covid or no covid, the system should have reacted to cure the problem as it developed.

But if we teach people to be able to mop floors and make their own beds, they could be become competent enough to overthrow the government.....

 

[Furniture]

But if we teach people to be able to mop floors and make their own beds, they could be become competent enough to overthrow the government.....

Bouncy castles and inflatable hot tubs aren't covered until DP2, so we're pretty safe for a few years.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Just make basic a DLN and Zoom course.

That's a great way to introduce our new folks to a frustrating aspect.

 

[Good2Golf]

Just make basic a DLN and Zoom course.

That's a great way to introduce our new folks to a frustrating aspect.

But make the recruits do it in the shacks, on the DWAN.

 

[FJAG]

May, July, with SYEP. All paperwork at the unit as far as I could tell. 4 visits prior to commencement of GMT - initial, part I medical, part II, and swearing in. Medical part I at unit (a couple of the officers - infantry unit - were civvy nurses, and they had a couple of cas aides as well), part II at locally contracted doctor.

I'm not sure we had part 1 and 2 medicals for reservists back then. That same night I was brought in I went to a small medical room in the old Richmond Street armoury where what I'm sure was something like an MA took me through the med forms, gave me a once over and we were done.

I had another medical when I transferred to the RegF but don't recall it being more thorough, just a more medical environment which I think might have been at Downsview where they ran us through a two-day process including fitness testing (nearly flunked the pull-ups), some form of intelligence/aptitude test and a selection board interview. That process too was fast and painless.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I'm not sure we had part 1 and 2 medicals for reservists back then. That same night I was brought in I went to a small medical room in the old Richmond Street armoury where what I'm sure was something like an MA took me through the med forms, gave me a once over and we were done.

I had another medical when I transferred to the RegF but don't recall it being more thorough, just a more medical environment which I think might have been at Downsview where they ran us through a two-day process including fitness testing (nearly flunked the pull-ups), some form of intelligence/aptitude test and a selection board interview. That process too was fast and painless.

 

[mariomike]

I'm not sure we had part 1 and 2 medicals for reservists back then. That same night I was brought in I went to a small medical room in the old Richmond Street armoury where what I'm sure was something like an MA took me through the med forms, gave me a once over and we were done.

I had another medical when I transferred to the RegF but don't recall it being more thorough, just a more medical environment which I think might have been at Downsview where they ran us through a two-day process including fitness testing (nearly flunked the pull-ups), some form of intelligence/aptitude test and a selection board interview. That process too was fast and painless.

Mine was with a real doctor.

I remember one of the questions was, "Do you like girls?"

 

[lenaitch]

Mine was with a real doctor.

I remember one of the questions was, "Do you like girls?"

Better, I suppose, than 'do you like sheep?'.

 

[Aper]

Mine was with a real doctor.

I remember one of the questions was, "Do you like girls?"

Today's question would be "You like humans with how many chromosomes ?"

 

[Brad Sallows]

I remember one of the questions was, "Do you like girls?"

As long as the next question wasn't, "Can you wait a couple of minutes while I change into my schoolgirl uniform?"

 

[deepblue202]

Well I guess Canada will be at the kids table by themselves soon

New Zealand Takes Step Toward Joining Aukus Security Pact

New Zealand has agreed to officially explore the potential benefits of joining the Aukus pact, the latest sign that Wellington will contribute to the security agreement mainly aimed at countering China.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Maxman1]

Well I guess Canada will be at the kids table by themselves soon

New Zealand Takes Step Toward Joining Aukus Security Pact

New Zealand has agreed to officially explore the potential benefits of joining the Aukus pact, the latest sign that Wellington will contribute to the security agreement mainly aimed at countering China.

www.bloomberg.com

Wouldn't be anything new.