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A Secret really shouldn’t take much longer than a month to process. Simply cases can be done in a week.Cant be on a HMC Ship without secret.
A Secret really shouldn’t take much longer than a month to process. Simply cases can be done in a week.Cant be on a HMC Ship without secret.
Back in the day when Canada and the US were chock full of Soviet spies and sympathizers it might have taken a month. Once the MPs had your paperwork and it was all in order it was pretty much done in a timely fashion.A Secret really shouldn’t take much longer than a month to process. Simply cases can be done in a week.
Way back when (90's) we were capable of attracting, processing and actually enroling candidates in less than 30 days, barring med delays. That was befor the 'Muricans sold an unnamed admiral the whole concept of TQM which has morphed into the abomination we have today.Taking over a year to hire any person is unacceptable. Just another example of a broken system that needs complete overhaul.
The CAF should be able to bring people on inside 4 months.
Don't most people wait on PAT platoon before getting trades training?
There is - it's called an irregular enrolment that enables us to release members if something is found out of sorts such as a criminal record or medical condition not revealed. Basically anything that would keep the person from getting a security clearance and was not revealed could qualify as an irregular enrolment.Almost everyone joining the CAF can get by without a clearance for the first year+. Very little risk is assumed in hiring without a completed clearance for 90% of jobs, but a mechanism should be in place to turf someone who can't eventually obtain a clearance.
Maybe in your fleet, but not Cyclone. Nobody can touch that aircraft without Level 2. Including “basic elementary and servicing tasks”.They just post them to the units and treat QL3s as any other course, that's what they do with air techs now anyway. Instead of mulling about for 6 months at Borden in PAT Platoon, we can at least give them basic elementary and servicing tasks while they wait.
There will be fleets where pers likely won’t even get in the building, let alone touch the aircraft, without Level 2 or higher.Maybe in your fleet, but not Cyclone. Nobody can touch that aircraft without Level 2. Including “basic elementary and servicing tasks”.
Way back when (90's) we were capable of attracting, processing and actually enroling candidates in less than 30 days, barring med delays. That was befor the 'Muricans sold an unnamed admiral the whole concept of TQM which has morphed into the abomination we have today.
Maybe in your fleet, but not Cyclone. Nobody can touch that aircraft without Level 2. Including “basic elementary and servicing tasks”.
Hate the game, not the player…How unfortunate.
What is TQM ?
Total Quality Management, an MBA buzzword.What is TQM ?
As military aircraft become more advanced, that’s going to be the case. Advanced systems will require higher security clearances to work on them, as well as their support infrastructure.How unfortunate.
Ha! I match you TQM and Kaizen you 5Ss!Total Quality Management, an MBA buzzword.
Much higher.There will be fleets where pers likely won’t even get in the building, let alone touch the aircraft, without Level 2 or higher.
…well, I wanted to be intentionally vague…Much higher.
Have you read anything, anything at all, in the last 10 pages?This thread is a great example of why things are f**ked. "Can't"... should not be in the CAF's vocabulary. "Can't this, can't that" F**k all that... no wonder we are paralyzed.
There is no acceptable reason why the CAF takes well over 4 months and sometimes years to enroll people. If the CAF "can't" then things need to change drastically, whether that is the screening process, or how personnel are managed until the screening is achieved... the answer simply must not be "can't". Find solutions.
Ha! I match you TQM and Kaizen you 5Ss!
But even that shouldn't stop it. There are points in time when interdepartmental action has to be mandated by the GiC.Have you read anything, anything at all, in the last 10 pages?
I am all for assessing blame/shame. But I am telling you that not all the levers are in DND’s control.