Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[childs56]

We apparently do not have the ability to forecast needs much after coffee break, let alone "foreseeable" ones.

I think most are lucky to forecast what color boots they are going to wear let alone up to and past coffee break.

 

[MilEME09]

I think most are lucky to forecast what color boots they are going to wear let alone up to and past coffee break.

Prototype cadpat boots enters the chat

 

[Halifax Tar]

Kind of....

They even had a poster made up... there was a 'short bus' person involved as I recall

• The Canadian Marine Commando Regiment (CMCR) idea surfaced in the 1990s and 2000s as a proposal to create a littoral-focused, ship-to-shore special operations-capable unit combining naval mobility with commando tactics. Proponents argued it would fill capability gaps between the Royal Canadian Navy’s boarding teams, the Canadian Armed Forces’ (CAF) regular infantry, and Joint Task Force 2 (JTF2) special operations by providing scalable maritime raiding, reconnaissance, and direct-action options.

Why it did not materialize as a standalone regiment

• Cost and fiscal priorities: Establishing and sustaining a bespoke marine commando regiment would have required significant investment in training, vessels, amphibious craft, sustainment, and specialized equipment. During the years the idea circulated, Canadian defence budgets and procurement priorities focused on higher-profile programs (e.g., Arctic sovereignty, frigates, submarines, the Aurora replacement), constraining funds for a new capability layered between existing forces.
• Overlap with existing capabilities: Defence planners judged that many intended CMCR tasks could be covered by existing units via task-organized forces—Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) boarding parties, Naval Tactical Operations (boarding) teams, Canadian Special Operations Forces Command (CANSOFCOM) including JTF2 and the Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR), and mechanized/infantry units for larger amphibious operations—reducing the imperative for a separate regiment.
• Political and strategic direction: Canadian defence policy emphasized expeditionary contributions, Arctic/sovereignty presence, and alliance interoperability rather than creating a new, niche commando service. Without a clear national strategic driver and strong political backing, the proposal lacked momentum.
• Organizational and doctrinal challenges: Creating a marine-commando culture, recruitment pipelines, and doctrine bridging navy and army cultures posed complexity. CANSOFCOM’s mandate and the RCN’s force posture made a single-service regiment awkward without multi-service command arrangements and explicit doctrine changes.

What happened instead (how capability needs were addressed)

• Use of existing SOF and CAF units: CANSOFCOM and CSOR have absorbed many of the high-readiness, maritime-capable special tactics roles, with JTF2 reserved for the highest-risk direct-action missions. RCN developed boarding teams, enhanced shipborne force protection, and interoperable amphibious procedures with allies.

https://www.quora.com/What-became-of-the-idea-for-a-Canadian-Marine-Commando-Regiment

I remember that! That was a real fever dream for a hot minute. Was tied to to the big cod's Big Honkin Ship idea, no ?

No more ‘honk’ in this ship? – Canadian Naval Review

The report of the arrival of France's F.N. Tonnerre in Halifax should raise some issues for Canada. Tonnerre is a four-in-one vessel - helicopter carrier, hospital ship, command ship, and amphibious ship - that might have been a potential contender for the Big Honking Ship once touted by no less...

www.navalreview.ca

 

[McG]

remember that! That was a real fever dream for a hot minute. Was tied to to the big cod's Big Honkin Ship idea, no ?

The Big Honkin’ Ships idea was after 2006. Not a 1990’s thing.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The Big Honkin’ Ships idea was after 2006. Not a 1990’s thing.

And the Marine unit thing stretched into the 2000s too.

Suggested in 2007

Marine Commando Regiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Halifax Tar]

The road to 5% ?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/defence-carney-budget-military-spending-9.6965349

 

[ytz]

Has the topic of Space Marines ever came up or been considered?

What do you think the new airfield security force is for?

 

[ytz]

The road to 5% ?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/defence-carney-budget-military-spending-9.6965349

The unfunded list is long and expensive......



And all that is necessary just to start working on this vision:

 

[MilEME09]

The unfunded list is long and expensive......

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A bit out of date #5 is funded, #8 is partially funded, #10 was approved by cabinet in June and funded

 

[ytz]

A bit out of date #5 is funded, #8 is partially funded, #10 was approved by cabinet in June and funded

Approved by cabinet. But not yet in the CIP ready for public servants to start cranking out bid documents. But yes, a bit out of date. Either way, there's so much to be done to simply get the base force built up. Before we start talking about that 400 k future force.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Approved by cabinet. But not yet in the CIP ready for public servants to start cranking out bid documents. But yes, a bit out of date. Either way, there's so much to be done to simply get the base force built up. Before we start talking about that 400 k future force.

Crawl
Walk
Run

 

[Halifax Tar]

Preform CPR
Revive
Crawl
Walk
Run

In this case I am adding two.