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Don’t let reality intrude on the grand plans of the Official Languages Office.
Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC
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daftandbarmy
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How does it compare with te cost of outfitting a Canadian Ranger?
AI Overview
Canadian Rangers are issued essential gear for operating in remote areas, including
the C-19 rifle,
red uniform items (sweatshirt, cap, t-shirt),
CADPAT pants,
boots,
safety gear (vest, first aid kit, GPS, radio),
and are reimbursed for personal vehicles and specialized equipment like snowmobiles.
Their kit emphasizes self-reliance, blending standard Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) items with specialized Ranger equipment for Arctic conditions,
Key Issued Items:
C-19 Rifle: A bolt-action rifle replacing the old Lee-Enfield, designed for cold weather use with features like a larger trigger guard for mitts, according to The Mackenzie Institute and Wikipedia.
Red Uniform: A distinctive red hooded sweatshirt, t-shirt, and red ball cap or toque.
CADPAT Clothing: Camouflage trousers (CADPAT TW) and black combat boots.
Safety Gear: An orange safety vest, first aid kit, GPS, and a shortwave radio.
Reimbursable & Personal Equipment:
Vehicles: Snowmobiles (LOSVs), ATVs, and watercraft.
Tools: Radios, chainsaws, generators, and other essential tools.
Support & Modernization:
Rangers are expected to be self-sufficient but receive patrol-level stores (tents, stoves).
The CAF provides specialized vehicles like the Bandvagn BV206 tracked vehicles to enhance mobility and safety in harsh environments, notes The Mackenzie Institute.
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There is a "plan" to have all members MCpl and up in some trades, in some regions be bilingual. There is also a "plan" to have all members WO and up BBB... Without adding extra resources to language training.
If you're in and not bilingual, expect it to become a limiting factor earlier in your career.
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We need to stop calling it a second language when the only options are English and French. Forcing French on everyone Sgt or WO and above is going to be a massive anchor on promotions. Also, good luck retaining immigrants who already have a real second language.
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Yeah that's a wasteful endeavor. With everything else going and the critical shortages - adding a year long second language course for everyone Sgt and up who are not already bi-lingual is an unnecessary strain. Good luck maintaining that profile without a posting to a franco unit/region.
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Yes. The CDS and DM signed off the new DND/CAF language policy a few weeks back. Highlights:
By 2030:
- All officers - BBB (Col/Capt and above remain CBC)
- All essential MOSIDs (essential MOSIDs are HRA, FSA, Posties, all med trades, dental assistants, MPs, and SAR Techs) - BBB
- All WOs/PO1s and above - BBB
- All Maj/LCdrs and LCols/Cdrs - CBB
- All MWOs/CPO2s - CBB
- All CWOs/CPO1 - CBC
- All Sgts and above in essential MOSIDs - CBC
- All MCpls in essential MOSIDs - CBB
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These are the Cdn statistics on Bilingualism.
9.5% of Cdns outside of Quebec are bilingual.
www12.statcan.gc.ca
9.5% of Cdns outside of Quebec are bilingual.
English–French bilingualism in Canada: Recent trends after five decades of official bilingualism
This article in the Census in Brief series looks at the evolution of English–French bilingualism in Quebec, in Canada outside Quebec and across Canada in recent decades. It includes an analysis of how changes in the relative proportion and the rate of English–French bilingualism of different...
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Tilting at windmills.
Is this the last gasp of Trudeau Family social engineering of the Forces? Its called shaving the Ice Cube for a reason.
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These are the Cdn statistics on Bilingualism.
9.5% of Cdns outside of Quebec are bilingual.
English–French bilingualism in Canada: Recent trends after five decades of official bilingualism
This article in the Census in Brief series looks at the evolution of English–French bilingualism in Quebec, in Canada outside Quebec and across Canada in recent decades. It includes an analysis of how changes in the relative proportion and the rate of English–French bilingualism of different...
And I wonder what the figure looks like for the Federal Public Service which, I assume, is the standard to which the CAF is being held - or something like that.
Fabius
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From a Parliamentary report
As per google this is the federal government employee provincial breakdown as well.
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Yikes
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Is this applicable to Reg, Primary Res, Sup Res equally?
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Directive says Regular Force.
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I would like to see the CAF training plan to get all reg force officers and WOs or higher to BBB in the next 5 years while also expanding the force structures and integrating all the new equipment that all the services are bringing on line.
It’s got to be one heck of an amazing plan.
It’s got to be one heck of an amazing plan.
That’s a… um… bold plan. And one that definitely looks very achievable and not at all at the expense of recruiting, retention, or operational effectiveness. The only unfortunate thing is they didn’t think of and implement this sooner.
A crackdown on bilingualism seems very odd, unless it’s a ploy to attract resources to boost up second language training capacity that has been gutted over the years. Of course, that’s what Accommodation 2020 was supposed to do to modernize single and married quarters (spoiler alert — very few new builds actually arrived and most people in quarters are in legacy builds that do not meet the standards)
And while some things are doable, there are parts of the directive that seem downright weird. For many officers, achieving BBB after 4 years of MilCol should be achievable (although the Arbour report pointed out that there’s work to be done there). But there’s many officers that don’t commission through MilCol ROTP — putting MOTP Medical Officers and ROTP Nurses through SLT instead of letting them do clinical work seems expensive and a quick way to run down the clock on their obligatory service, and this seems to largely close down officers that CT from the PRes. And it’s downright strange on the NCO level to add bilingualism to the SAR Tech initial training pipeline — don’t they already have a lot on their plate?
The Arbour Report quoted a requiremnt for 1680 training hours to progress a student from XXX to BBB. That is 44.8 weeks — almost exactly a year. For 4 out of every 5 Officers and SNCO? And Privates in many trades?
Tying it back to the 2% thread because we’ll need a lot of contracted instructors to actually accomplish that.
And while some things are doable, there are parts of the directive that seem downright weird. For many officers, achieving BBB after 4 years of MilCol should be achievable (although the Arbour report pointed out that there’s work to be done there). But there’s many officers that don’t commission through MilCol ROTP — putting MOTP Medical Officers and ROTP Nurses through SLT instead of letting them do clinical work seems expensive and a quick way to run down the clock on their obligatory service, and this seems to largely close down officers that CT from the PRes. And it’s downright strange on the NCO level to add bilingualism to the SAR Tech initial training pipeline — don’t they already have a lot on their plate?
The Arbour Report quoted a requiremnt for 1680 training hours to progress a student from XXX to BBB. That is 44.8 weeks — almost exactly a year. For 4 out of every 5 Officers and SNCO? And Privates in many trades?
Tying it back to the 2% thread because we’ll need a lot of contracted instructors to actually accomplish that.
