Canada Post Woes (merged)

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Might as well privatize the while thing and get someone with some business sense in there.

No one with business sense would touch it.
I'm a Union guy, but their leadership in this case is going to cost the workers dearly.
Which is going to kill a lot of small businesses and charities.

 

[Eaglelord17]

Does that include managers?

Canada Post lays off 50 managers amid 'financial struggles'

Last month, Canada Post said significant change was needed to modernize its operating model and preserve the national postal service.

toronto.citynews.ca

Generally managers don’t count under unions but I am not sure on their specifics.

 

[lenaitch]

It is common in the broader PS to have mid-managers , professionals, etc. represented by their own bargaining unit. I know within the CP, Postmaster and A/Postmasters have their own 'association' which is their legal bargaining unit.

 

[Remius]

Generally managers don’t count under unions but I am not sure on their specifics.

They are not covered under the union rules.

I have a family member who was let go in that last round after 24 years of service. Was pretty much left to his own devices to deal with the layoff.

 

[mariomike]

They are not covered under the union rules.

Saw this about that,

Canada Post Layoffs: What Managers Need to Know About Severance Pay

Canada Post announced on February 6, 2025, that it had laid off nearly 50 management employees earlier that week as part of a corporate-wide restructuring to address significant financial and […]

www.monkhouselaw.com

Unlike unionized employees, who have collective agreements outlining their termination rights, non-unionized managers must navigate severance negotiations independently.

Sounds like they dont have right to recall . It's permanent.

Without a union, they have to retain a lawyer to negotiate a severance package.

 

[Remius]

Saw this about that,

Canada Post Layoffs: What Managers Need to Know About Severance Pay

Canada Post announced on February 6, 2025, that it had laid off nearly 50 management employees earlier that week as part of a corporate-wide restructuring to address significant financial and […]

www.monkhouselaw.com

Sounds like they dont have right to recall . It's permanent.

Without a union, they have to retain a lawyer to negotiate a severance package.

Which is what he did. Ended up getting more than they offered.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I don't know, I have always had great service from my posties. I make a point of chatting to them when we meet. Also had two friends that worked as posties, a world of difference between the inside and outside workers.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I don't know, I have always had great service from my posties. I make a point of chatting to them when we meet. Also had two friends that worked as posties, a world of difference between the inside and outside workers.

I haven’t physically received a package at my door from Canada post since 2017. Even when I am home (and I have heard them more than once), there is no effort to knock or contact me. I have also stepped out on them and they said they didn’t have the package I would have to pick it up tomorrow and left me the ticket.

I am sure there is some good employees but there is also lots of poor ones. Those poor ones don’t realize they are costing themselves their job with their laziness.

I want serious reforms to Canada Post to become a reasonably priced service. I don’t even mind a small deficit for the service it provides rural Canada, however this poor quality service well feeding off the tax payer needs to end.

 

[dapaterson]

Canada Post cannot be national, single priced, affordable and without public subsidy.

 

[mariomike]

I don't know, I have always had great service from my posties. I make a point of chatting to them when we meet.

Give ours an envelope every Christmas.

Guess we won't be doing that anymore.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Meanwhile, the usual quality service

Cambridge, Ont. man says package was left out in the rain after Canada Post delivery driver forged his signature​

A man from Cambridge, Ont. will be looking for a new company to deliver packages after he said a Canada Post employee forged his signature and left a parcel out in the rain.

James Murphy told CTV News he received a notification that a package had been successfully delivered and signed for, even though Murphy was at work at the time, his daughter was at school and his wife asleep.

“With the way the world is today and everything, I don’t like packages sitting around. So, I got signature required for all my packages,” Murphy explained.


Although his wife eventually brought the package in, Murphy didn’t know how his name and signature ended up on the delivery receipt.

“Somebody signed my name,” he alleged.

Cambridge, Ont. man says package was left out in the rain after Canada Post delivery driver forged his signature

A man from Cambridge, Ont. will be looking for a new company to deliver packages after he said a Canada Post employee forged his signature and left a parcel out in the rain.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Rifleman62]

Possibly he should be looking at his wife with some suspicion.

 

[foresterab]

It's tough for me because I've never seen door service delivery except for puralotor who I try to avoid due to costs. And they are...erratic on service.

Canada post has always been a centralized neighborhood mailbox or community post office in every place I've lived in western Canada.

So from my perspective it's a battle about a service that doesn't exist in much of the country. I'd just like to have mail not take weeks, even under priority post, to be delivered.

 

[dapaterson]

It's tough for me because I've never seen door service delivery except for puralotor who I try to avoid due to costs. And they are...erratic on service.

Canada post has always been a centralized neighborhood mailbox or community post office in every place I've lived in western Canada.

So from my perspective it's a battle about a service that doesn't exist in much of the country. I'd just like to have mail not take weeks, even under priority post, to be delivered.

I have always had home delivery and find it ridiculous that there are two standards. Moving me to a community mailbox would not be a hardship.

 

[RangerRay]

But think of the 80 year old geezer who has to get to his community mailbox in a walker in a blizzard! The horror!

 

[mariomike]

For example you can get paid overtime on top of your hourly standard wage well working a 8 hour regularly scheduled shift by completing your route quicker than 8 hours (i.e. route is scheduled for 8 hours, you do it in 4 then work 4 hours on something else for OT).

We had a Power Shift. Briefly.

But think of the 80 year old geezer who has to get to his community mailbox in a walker in a blizzard! The horror!

I enjoy walking, in all weather. Just hope they they dont put one front of our house. Lol emoji.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I have always had home delivery and find it ridiculous that there are two standards. Moving me to a community mailbox would not be a hardship.

Or just give people the opportunity to pay extra for home delivery.

Canadian equality of shared misery warriors' heads exploding in 3...2....1....

 

[lenaitch]

Or just give people the opportunity to pay extra for home delivery.

Canadian equality of shared misery warriors' heads exploding in 3...2....1....

The cost to implement and maintain parallel systems would probably outweigh what people would be willing to pay for it.

 

[foresterab]

But think of the 80 year old geezer who has to get to his community mailbox in a walker in a blizzard! The horror!

I know you're joking but we've got that exact situation with our neighbor who is unable to walk to the mailbox especially in winter.

Kid is quite happy to run and fetch their mail for them in exchange for a cookie. Works for everyone...they get their mail and a hyper visitor...we get a break .

But honestly it's always been variations of this type of delivery that allowed friends/family/neighbors to pick up each others mail. It's only when it's something critical you need to sign for a person has to visit the post office (which is also subcontracted out to the convivence store). All the regular community mailbox delivery is via sub-contractors using their own vehicles (a huge cost savings in fleet maintenance alone) and they are under incentive to finish the job quickly as their route payment depends on timely delivery.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The cost to implement and maintain parallel systems would probably outweigh what people would be willing to pay for it.

Well, if you have no idea what your customer wants because you don't survey them, and no data related to how much it costs to provide a variety of services because you haven't done the business case analysis work, then you can't make any informed decisions.

My guess is they've done some of that but it's been futile because up to this point: Sacred Cow.