Canada the Old

[mariomike]

I started to reply to this discussion but decided that my anecdotal experience growing up in Toronto 50 years ago would add little. I often look curiously at people who state that they would have no intention of leaving the city under any circumstances, then recall that I grew up with people like that. People complain that the expectations and priorities of younger generations are skewed, but I'll bet if some builder offered homes with arborite countertops and white painted appliances, they wouldn't be a whole lot cheaper, because land costs are such a large portion these days. Living in the rurals or smaller communities are great options for those willing to take it, but there has to be a way to make a living. Not everyone can be farmer; not everyone can work online.

I pretty much stick to my "little boomer haven". Walk a lot. Can't stand city driving , and good luck parking.

I like nothing better than to go to Union Station and say, "Give me a ticket to anywhere". Low speed rail is fine with me. < smile

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

You can very well fill your bank account, if you work under a contract with a DB pension with unlimited cost-of-living adjustment.

I'm always amused when I find out teachers in the public system are paying big bucks to send their own kids to pricey private schools.

I'm not saying it's bad, but it isn't that much $$$, especially when you consider all the time off.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I'm not saying it's bad, but it isn't that much $$$, especially when you consider all the time off.

$70K is pretty darn low, in some places. BC salary grids. As once explained to me, maximum step in those grids was usually achieved by mid-30s in terms of teacher ages. Maybe things have changed and pigs are flying, but I doubt very much the union would have consented at some point to moving the top steps further down the age profile.

I also doubt the salary in the salary grid includes all compensation. Certainly it's unrealistic to compare the salary of someone who has to fund his retirement, health care, etc out of his salary with the salary of someone who has additional employer-provided funds to provide some or all of those things.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I'm not saying it's bad, but it isn't that much $$$, especially when you consider all the time off.

A average teacher in Ontario makes 100k a year working 2/3 of the year, which is more than double the median income in Canada (44k approximately).

Reality is most Canadians make a lot less. 100k isn’t that great a income anymore but it is still a lot more than the majority are making.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

A average teacher in Ontario makes 100k a year working 2/3 of the year, which is more than double the median income in Canada (44k approximately).

Reality is most Canadians make a lot less. 100k isn’t that great a income anymore but it is still a lot more than the majority are making.

Median, not average. Teachers start at roughly $58,000 and it can top out at around $120,000 for the most senior teachers. That's really not that much over an entire career.

It's an honorable profession and a good salary but you aren't breaking bank on a teachers wage.

 

[lenaitch]

I think I was more of a follower than a leader.

More importantly, when they went over budget, they fired ( not laid off for recall - fired ) Management.

I saw them fire ten Management in a single day to save money. And many more over the years.

Never a paramedic layoff.

Being unionized probably had the most to do with that.

 

[mariomike]

Being unionized probably had the most to do with that.

They fired non- union staff so they could hire paramedics.

They were the only ones they could send on calls.