Canada to Spend $5.0Bil on AEW Aircraft

[childs56]

South Korea New AEW&C program

South Korea Has Chosen Its Next Airborne Early Warning Radar Jet

South Korea will add the L3Harris Global 6500-based airborne early warning and control aircraft to its current fleet of four Boeing E-7s. South Korea will add the L3Harris Global 6500-based airborne early warning and control aircraft to its current fleet of four Boeing E-7s.

www.twz.com

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

That is a funky looking Global 6500, especially the nose.

 

[Baz]

Before I say something which is probably meaningless, I will give my relevant experience. I was the surveillance officer at AGS-IO (Alliance Ground Surveillance Implementation Office, SHAPE, Belgium). At the time we were part of NAEWC FC (NATO Airborne Early Warning and Control Force Command). As the surveillance part of AGS (Global Hawk with MP-RTIP) was meant to do air ground battle management (ie JSTARS stuff) possibly in conjunction with NATO E-3s, I had plenty of interface with NATO E-3 drivers (including USAF and RAF), JSTARS guys, and even a E-2 bubba.

So I have a question: does Canada want AEW or AEW&C? Do they even know? And, for both of them, in what domains: just air, or air and maritime and/or land?

The reason is the C means control; ie, airborne battle management. Adding it means a completely different platform, or, for UAVs, extra radios, back haul, and crew force.

 

[Greene]

Before I say something which is probably meaningless, I will give my relevant experience. I was the surveillance officer at AGS-IO (Alliance Ground Surveillance Implementation Office, SHAPE, Belgium). At the time we were part of NAEWC FC (NATO Airborne Early Warning and Control Force Command). As the surveillance part of AGS (Global Hawk with MP-RTIP) was meant to do air ground battle management (ie JSTARS stuff) possibly in conjunction with NATO E-3s, I had plenty of interface with NATO E-3 drivers (including USAF and RAF), JSTARS guys, and even a E-2 bubba.

So I have a question: does Canada want AEW or AEW&C? Do they even know? And, for both of them, in what domains: just air, or air and maritime and/or land?

The reason is the C means control; ie, airborne battle management. Adding it means a completely different platform, or, for UAVs, extra radios, back haul, and crew force.

According to the procurement website, we are apparently looking for warning & control to cover air and sea: Airborne Early Warning & Control (Our North, Strong and Free) - Defence Capabilities Blueprint I'm not sure if that answers your question but that's my interpretation of project description.

 

[Baz]

According to the procurement website, we are apparently looking for warning & control to cover air and sea: Airborne Early Warning & Control (Our North, Strong and Free) - Defence Capabilities Blueprint I'm not sure if that answers your question but that's my interpretation of project description.

Thanks for the reference.

Given that, it doesn’t matter what radar you can stick into a UAV; the bigger piece is control. You need a robust Link and radio fit as well. Which means a lot of real time back haul connectivity.

And you still need the battle management crew force at either a distributed ground station or main operating base.

Is anyone even doing airborne battle management for the air mission by UAV yet? AGS is trying to do it for the air to ground mission, but I haven’t heard any particular success in that area yet. This isn’t surprising, given that the “ISR” types in NATO (read USAF Europe) didn’t understand the original requirement was for a “JSTARS.”