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Death before dismount.Bloggtns walks.
Death before dismount.Bloggtns walks.
Lack of a choice in that respect.
I am not fully against autoloaders, I do want some sort of viable manual backup though, and I still believe that 4 is the better number for crew.
They can be fired manually if you release the motors but it isn't easy.Is there a manual back-up on an RWS?
We always want more folks for 24/7 and LOBs and now HLTA leave and a hundred other reasons. At the end the equipment manufacturers will design these systems based on their understanding of what the largest number of customers are looking for unless a specific nation comes at them with a bag of cash and an SOR for a bespoke system. The trend currently is to reduce crew size, in part, because everyone who has a professional army is feeling the tyranny of annual PY pay envelope sustainment.Fair, but three burn out a lot faster in a 24/7 environment. Even if your running 1 crew member for turret watch, that doesn't leave a lot, considering the needed preventative maintenance, commander needing to go for orders (or taking orders via data), basic routine etc.
I'm also a guy who wants a two man turret - simply for greater SA - even if buttoned up.
So, bow machine gunner?I'm also a guy who wants a two man turret - simply for greater SA - even if buttoned up.
I do share that concern, but tempered by another concern that a manned turret also has vision blocks if the various sensors around the vehicle get battle damaged. Furthermore - the turret basket is going to take up a lot of room - sure it can get shrunk a bit not accommodating people - but then how does one have manual control - and maintenance access will generally mean there needs to be room for at least one.On the other hand, the role of small UAVs and Russian tanks blowing their turrets off makes me wonder if there isn't a higher survivability rate for both tank and SP crews if the turret, with all the crap that goes boom in them, become unmanned and the crew remains in lower down in a more protected environment. One no longer needs to sit in the turret to get the SA that multiple redundant cameras (and UAVs) can give.
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How many of those; the ones with reliable tanks, at least; are running them in ways more akin to aviation, or doing something akin to the French, or not particularly concerned with long-term work in the field as they expect to advance directly from hangar to contact with invading Russians?No but my point is that other nations, to include every single one that runs Russian tanks (a non zero number of our allies) are able to operate in three man crews.
How many of those; the ones with reliable tanks, at least; are running them in ways more akin to aviation,
or doing something akin to the French,
or not particularly concerned with long-term work in the field as they expect to advance directly from hangar to contact with invading Russians?
What does this mean.
No one does anything the way France does.
I don’t think there’s a military on the planet that doesn’t expect to work “long-term” in the field and instead expects a single meeting engagement.
They are especially good at taunting - even the second time,,,,,No one does anything the way France does.
A fairly hard operator/maintainer split, possibly not organic to the armoured unit proper.What does this mean.
Never know.No one does anything the way France does.
Though there's shadings between that, and North Africa or Ukraine: something akin to Kirkhill's description, for example.I don’t think there’s a military on the planet that doesn’t expect to work “long-term” in the field and instead expects a single meeting engagement.
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"The 75(mm gun) is firing. The 37(mm gun) is firing, but it is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning (machine gun) is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance" on the A set, and the driver, who can’t hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away . . . . someone hands me a cheese sandwich."
Ever loaded inside a turret!Pretty good comparison. I'll say off the top, some of the crewman here are some of the slowest loaders I have ever witnessed. Other than that, it's pretty good making comparisons. I offer no comment so you can decide for yourselves.
See? Proof that a 3-man crew can be effective!
Is that a question?Ever loaded inside a turret!