Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

[Underway]

We have raised a couple of generations now, to emote, to express their feelings. A phlegmatic response that emphasised rational debate and logic has been discouraged since Kirk and McCoy mocked Spock.

Today our entire discourse is wrapped around not hurting people's feelings. Or appealing to their feelings.

We are great at ginning up flash mobs on a moment's notice.

This isn't new. The boomers are still the largest voting block and they happily were outraged like everyone else. And they generally are the one complaining about "soft kids these days" . This isn't generational, its just people being people. Lots of Gingoism in history getting countries into trouble.

 

[Kirkhill]

This isn't new. The boomers are still the largest voting block and they happily were outraged like everyone else. And they generally are the one complaining about "soft kids these days" . This isn't generational, its just people being people. Lots of Gingoism in history getting countries into trouble.

I agree.

The Boomers actively worked to suppress stoicism.
Let it all hang out.

 

[Navy_Pete]

I agree.

The Boomers actively worked to suppress stoicism.
Let it all hang out.

Stoicism isn't being silent about things, and Socrates was kind of infamous for never shutting up.

Really about accepting what you can't change, looking at challenges and setbacks as opportunities for growth, and not living to excess, so lot more in common with mindfulness where you actively monitor and react to how you are feeling, which might include talking about it to peers etc.

Bottling things up and ignoring them is more self-delusion than inner strength, so I think kids talking about their feelings, and not putting up with people being dickheads is a lot healthier compared to alternatives. Took a bit of getting used to, but I think takes a lot more strength of character to confront someone for bad behaviour than it does to ignore them, and kids are a lot more resilient than people give them credit for.

If you want to experience soul crushing frustration, try applying for a job where you apply to a portal, where you have to write half an essay describing your experience, upload a resume that describes your experience, get through AI filters, multiple HR interviews (including stupid questions like 'what is your favourite drink) etc to find out the job pays minimum wage, but you aren't qualified for it anyway as they want a programmer with 5 years experience on a programming language released 3 years ago.

 

[Kirkhill]

Stoicism isn't being silent about things, and Socrates was kind of infamous for never shutting up.

Really about accepting what you can't change, looking at challenges and setbacks as opportunities for growth, and not living to excess, so lot more in common with mindfulness where you actively monitor and react to how you are feeling, which might include talking about it to peers etc.

Bottling things up and ignoring them is more self-delusion than inner strength, so I think kids talking about their feelings, and not putting up with people being dickheads is a lot healthier compared to alternatives. Took a bit of getting used to, but I think takes a lot more strength of character to confront someone for bad behaviour than it does to ignore them, and kids are a lot more resilient than people give them credit for.

If you want to experience soul crushing frustration, try applying for a job where you apply to a portal, where you have to write half an essay describing your experience, upload a resume that describes your experience, get through AI filters, multiple HR interviews (including stupid questions like 'what is your favourite drink) etc to find out the job pays minimum wage, but you aren't qualified for it anyway as they want a programmer with 5 years experience on a programming language released 3 years ago.

Mate you have just described the last 10 years of my life.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Mate you have just described the last 10 years of my life.

That was kind of the first almost 40 years of mine; mindfulness, cognitive behavior therapy, stoicism or whatever you want to call it was a huge relief. Felt like a pressure relief venting on an internal tank I didn't even know existed until it was drained off.

Think that was the bit of my Scottish upbringing that maybe missed a key bit about dealing with things (or they did, who knows).

Not that I'm not ornery anymore, just doesn't build up. As much.... most of the time lol.

 

[Kirkhill]

I was talking about the mindless battle with AI gatekeepers fronting for Inhuman Resources.

Civility demands a degree of stoicism.