Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

[FSTO]

^^
I'll see if I can find the graphic of current USN carrier availability. That and their incompetence in getting a replacement for the OHPs is really starting to put a strain on resources. On the plus side, that means the Trump class BB should never see the light of day!

Fleet Status Overview (As of August 1, 2026)
During this period, the fleet followed a standard rotation across 11 commissioned nuclear supercarriers: [1]

• Deployed in Active Zones: Three carriers were actively deployed to support high-priority global missions:
  • USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72) and USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77) were both actively stationed within the CENTCOM Area of Responsibility to maintain a heavy dual-carrier presence in the Middle East.
  • USS George Washington (CVN-73) was stationed forward-deployed in the Western Pacific, operating out of Japan. [1, 2, 3]
• In Port / Working Up: Three carriers were at their respective domestic homeports undergoing training or working up for upcoming sea trials:
  • USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70), which wrapped up its planned incremental maintenance availability to modernize its internal spaces and weapons systems.
  • USS Nimitz (CVN-68), which officially transitioned to its new long-term homeport at Naval Station Norfolk.
  • USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71), preparing for its upcoming rotation sequence. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• Refit / Deep Maintenance Overhauls: Four carriers were unavailable for active deployment due to planned yard cycles:
  • USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76), USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69), and the USS John C. Stennis (CVN-74) (undergoing its extensive mid-life Refueling and Complex Overhaul - RCOH). [1]
• Under Construction: Future Ford-class carriers—including the John F. Kennedy (CVN-79), Enterprise (CVN-80), and Doris Miller (CVN-81)—were in active assembly phases at Newport News Shipbuilding. [1]

So, once Abe gets back she'll unavailable for an extended periord (depending on refit cycle, etc), Washington going to the ME leaves no carriers in the Pacific. Nimitz was scheduled to be deactivated by now but she is going to be extended longer.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Nimitz was scheduled to be deactivated by now but she is going to be extended longer.

IIRC, it's because the USS John F. Kennedy should have been in operational trials by now but is still at the yard, delayed by about a year and a half, more if they go by the recent E.O. and replace the EMALS by steam at the president's request - which I don't know if they intend on. However, that ought to delay the next ones some because it's an important redesign, not just a little switcheroo, as you have to design and fit a steam pathway from the engine room to the catapults and the steam ones take more room, so a whole new flight deck config.

 

[FSTO]

IIRC, it's because the USS John F. Kennedy should have been in operational trials by now but is still at the yard, delayed by about a year and a half, more if they go by the recent E.O. and replace the EMALS by steam at the president's request - which I don't know if they intend on. However, that ought to delay the next ones some because it's an important redesign, not just a little switcheroo, as you have to design and fit a steam pathway from the engine room to the catapults and the steam ones take more room, so a whole new flight deck config.

Maybe they should use AI video to show the steam lines being installed. That should keep the dottering old fool sated until he leaves office.

 

[KevinB]

Maybe they should use AI video to show the steam lines being installed. That should keep the dottering old fool sated until he leaves office.

Ask him for his engineering qualifications as a naval architect…

 

[FSTO]

Ask him for his engineering qualifications as a naval architect…

He's a stable genius who passes numerous cognitive tests!

 

[RangerRay]

He's a stable genius who passes numerous cognitive tests!

And he knows more than all the admirals.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Because he's been on a boat before.....and, as a result......

 

[Maxman1]

In all honesty, I hope that port is ready because there's some pent up energy of way too many types on that ship after 270+ days out at sea, and I hope all the troops come back after their liberty safe and sound.

Bangkok, Oriental city, but the city don't know what the city is getting

But seriously, it's Bangkok, this will be just another Tuesday for them. It's the sailors who should be ready for the city, not the other way around.

 

[Maxman1]

IIRC, it's because the USS John F. Kennedy should have been in operational trials by now but is still at the yard, delayed by about a year and a half, more if they go by the recent E.O. and replace the EMALS by steam at the president's request - which I don't know if they intend on. However, that ought to delay the next ones some because it's an important redesign, not just a little switcheroo, as you have to design and fit a steam pathway from the engine room to the catapults and the steam ones take more room, so a whole new flight deck config.

As stupid as the order to switch back to steam is, it wasn't applied to Big John. It's only starting with Doris Miller.

And I'm sure the Navy will "get right on that" and just ignore it for the rest of his term, maybe come up with fake studies and reviews to look like they're working on it. Same with that battleship idea.

 

[Lumber]

@NavyShooter looks like you've got some competition:

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

@NavyShooter looks like you've got some competition:

View attachment 102135

Looks like they are using the same HVAC system as the HALIFAX's for the RDC: It says right there: "Warning: choking hazard"

 

[Czech_pivo]

@NavyShooter looks like you've got some competition:

View attachment 102135

Maybe it should say 'approx. 149 pieces.' Some may have less and some may have more.

 

[Kirkhill]

As stupid as the order to switch back to steam is, it wasn't applied to Big John. It's only starting with Doris Miller.

And I'm sure the Navy will "get right on that" and just ignore it for the rest of his term, maybe come up with fake studies and reviews to look like they're working on it. Same with that battleship idea.

They just need to hire the Canadian JSS project managers.

The Afloat Logistic Support Capability dates back to 1992 when Protecteur, Preserver and Provider were all still afloat.

 

[FSTO]

They just need to hire the Canadian JSS project managers.

The Afloat Logistic Support Capability dates back to 1992 when Protecteur, Preserver and Provider were all still afloat.

If we hadn’t sold fubard, our shipbuilding industry we’d be on the third generation of supply ships by now

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

If we hadn’t sold fubard, our shipbuilding industry we’d be on the third generation of supply ships by now

We are. I think you meant fourth generation.

Gen 1: Provider
Gen 2: Preserver and Protecteur
Gen 3: the new Protecteur class.

 

[FSTO]

We should have had a replacement for PRO and PRE in ready to start being constructed once Ottawa left the Saint John yard in 97.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

IIRC, that was the plan but then someone wanted to load them up with Swiss knife mission kits and call them Afloat Logistic Support Ships, which then got confused with the "Big Honking Ships" of a certain general, and at the end of all that confusion, Treasury balked when the first bid from Irving came in at three times the cost Ottawa had estimated, and it died there, not to be resuscitated before we decided to start self retiring the PRE class.

 

[FSTO]

I remember those days. But the entire government fleet was approaching rust out at the turn of the century and we could have kept the expertise that we had spent billions (for the 3rd time) developing gainfully employed while the design for the AORs was finalized. Instead we said “that’s it!” and 10 years later we started to spend billions (for the 4th time) again to get the industry going again.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

We are. I think you meant fourth generation.

Gen 1: Provider
Gen 2: Preserver and Protecteur
Gen 3: the new Protecteur class.

Perhaps 5th generation?

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

No. The Cape class vessels were fleet maintenance ships, not supply.