Canadian Soldiers Involved in Civilian Shooting

[GAP]

Canadian Soldiers Involved in Civilian Shooting: Officials
Josh Pringle  Tuesday, January 23, 2007
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An Afghan man is being treated for injuries after being shot in the leg by Canadian troops in southern Afghanistan.

The incident happened last night at a security cordon set up near a Canadian armoured vehicle outside Kandahar.

Canadian officials say the man refused several orders to stop as he approached the security barrier.

Lieutenant Sue Stefko says the troops hollered in Pashtun for the man to halt and fired three warning shots before taking aim at the motorcycle.

The incident happened on a dirt road as a convoy of soldiers from the 1st battalion Royal Canadian Regiment was returning from the field.

Canadian troops have been involved in a series of civilian shootings, two of which have resulted in fatalities.
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[Big Red]

What is the point of articles like this?

 

[proudnurse]

What is the point of articles like this?

I don't think there is specifically any "point". There are alot of members here that take the time to post articles, to keep us up to speed about what the media is saying, in respect to what is happening in Afghanistan. I think that they are doing a great job.

As for the man who got shot at the check point, he got his warning and didn't listen. What would happen here at home if you did not stop for the police? Probably the same thing.

Rebecca

 

[career_radio-checker]

My question, is this man going to ask for compensation? If we pay him it just encourages others to do the same - charge a check point, get wounded, get free medical treatment, get a pretty penny.

EDIT: This may be far fetched but there is a possibility that this sort of "taking a tumble" could be a tatic by Taliban supporters to help raise funds for the Taliban.

 

[GAP]

My question, is this man going to ask for compensation? If we pay him it just encourages others to do the same - charge a check point, get wounded, get free medical treatment, get a pretty penny.

EDIT: This may be far fetched but there is a possibility that this sort of "taking a tumble" could be a tatic by Taliban supporters to help raise funds for the Taliban.

I doubt that, but the possibility of the Taliban initiating something like that to test the reactions of the troops is a distinct possibility.

 

[Munxcub]

Perhaps they're trying to get our ROE in these circumstances changed by getting enough "civilians" shot...

 

[Big Red]

I dont' mean why is the article posted....why was the article ever written? This is not news, there must be thousands of warning shots fired everyday in Afghan and Iraq.

 

[George Wallace]

It is a "Slow News Day".  No IEDs.  No VBIEDs.  No Suicide Bombers.  No Taliban shoot outs.  No Political figure visiting.  No CDS visit.  Rick Mercer isn't in town.  No new News about the PRT.  Some news editor wanted to fill space.

 

[Kendrick]

It is a "Slow News Day".  No IEDs.  No VBIEDs.  No Suicide Bombers.  No Taliban shoot outs.  No Political figure visiting.  No CDS visit.  Rick Mercer isn't in town.  No new News about the PRT.  Some news editor wanted to fill space.

No news is good news isn't it?

 

[geo]

I dont' mean why is the article posted....why was the article ever written? This is not news, there must be thousands of warning shots fired everyday in Afghan and Iraq.

warning shots fired - yup, lots fired
local civilian shot in leg for ignoring instructions - nope, not that many incidents... and each one has been reviewed by the press.

 

[1feral1]

Shot in the leg!

He's bloody lucky he did not cop a burst in the C of M. Thats were I'd have aimed.

Warning shots give the enemy time, maybe time to detonate something nasty.

There should be ZERO compensation for such acts of stupidity from the LNs. They know the rules.


Cheers,

Wes

 

[Exarecr]

  Your all wrong. The soldier was using one of the new "Guided wound Bullets",meant to hit offenders not paying attention to the tactical situation. These new rounds were of course supplied by the NDP..........., well, you guys keep saying its a slow news day.

 

[geo]

Wes,

I hear ya and I agree with ya.  The fella is lucky to still be alive.  Most sentries would have shot warning shots & followed thru with shots to the larger parts of the body (head & chest).

 

[glock17]

I wish the media would stop creating opportunities for clowns like this to spew............

[color=red]doctor business from vancouver, Canada writes: What exactly is a checkpoint? An occupying army sets up some barricades across a road and shoots at people who want to get by without cooperating? What a wonderful thing to do, how liberating. This kind of thing use to be called 'highway robbery' and 'piracy' until the people with the guns running it got to make up the laws - and called it something different. I wish I could set up a checkpoint in front of my own house - letalone someone else's country - then I would enforce my rules. I would make nobody with cars allowed to pass. It would be for their own good and for less pollution. Alas, that kind of behavior would get me into jail. And I don't have the guns, nor the inclination. I'll have to leave it to the "high school dropouts" to do it to people who don't even speak their language. And they can do it for a better cause... for the Freedom of oil pipeline companies to operate in Afganistan... and for Americans to burn poppy fields for photographs... And to subsidise the lazy businessmen who own the arms trade... And to keep the system of wage slavery functioning by threatening people with violence... and all those lovely things that CANADA now stands on gaurd for!
Posted 23/01/07 at 4:44 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment [/color]

The above appeared in the comments section attached to the article on the globe and mail site. Sometimes I wonder why??
It makes me want to puke.

 

[Mr. Proulx]

"Freedom of oil pipeline companies to operate in Afghanistan". Wow, this guy is a genious. I didnt know we were taking any of Afghanistans vast oil supply.  You learn something new everyday!

 

[glock17]

Oh don't worry, there are plenty more little pearls of wisdom, just like that one....

http://www.theglobeandmail.com//servlet/story/RTGAM.20070123.wcanadashot0123/CommentStory/Afghanistan/home#comment577900

 

[proudnurse]

I dont' mean why is the article posted....why was the article ever written? This is not news, there must be thousands of warning shots fired everyday in Afghan and Iraq.

Big Red, I'm sorry that I may have misinterpreted what you had orginially said. Unfortunately this is a situation many soldiers have had to face when it comes to people not stopping at check points. What choice do they really have though? These people who are not stopping could have anything on them like a suicide bomb. I wonder if, when the media turns around and says so many x number of "innocents" have been killed in Iraq for example, if the ones that get killed running check points are included in those numbers.

Rebecca

 

[armyvern]

I wonder if, when the media turns around and says so many x number of "innocents" have been killed in Iraq for example, if the ones that get killed running check points are included in those numbers.
Rebecca

Sure, no doubt they are included in the counts Rebecca, along with all those other innocent Muslims who are blown up by extremist suicide bombers. That's exactly the reason why "facts" are misleading.

I'd even go so far as to wager that those innocent Muslim male & female teachers who dare to teach females and are then executed by those same extremists are also included in the counts. Yes they were innocent.

Unfortunately when most of the MSM tends to release their "XXXX # of Innocent Civilians have Died Since the Fall of the Taliban," they tend to do so in a manner which leads the ill/uninformed masses to believe that all of these deaths are directly attributable to coalition forces. Statistics lie, and can be made to back up which ever story-angle one wants to take. 

 

[Centurian1985]

Am I correct in my interpretation?  "doctor business" refers to our members as 'high school dropouts"?  What stereotyping! 

 

[career_radio-checker]

Am I correct in my interpretation?  "doctor business" refers to our members as 'high school dropouts"?  What stereotyping!   

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