Canadian Sovereignty

[Apple2018]

With all of our integration with the US has Canada become just Canada in name,anthem and flag? Did we sign on to Northern Command I heard that in doing so, the Americans will be setting up bases in Canada. I am just civilian post secondary student but I love Canada more then anything and I fear we are losing it all agreement after agreement. Can someone clarify this for me?  http://forums.army.ca/forums/Smileys/Armyca/sm_canada.gif

 

[ModlrMike]

Two questions:

A. As a political science major shouldn't you already know the answer to this?

B. What school do you go to so I can avoid sending my kids there?

 

[GAP]

Continue your education.............you have a ways to go................ :

 

[Apple2018]

Thats not fair, as the Definition of Sovereign: is the ability to create and pass laws within clearly defined boarders. Yes we have this criteria! Thats not the question I am asking here...

I am asking given these agreements we now have with all the integration between the USA are we losing our sovereignty? Will American bases becoming to our soil?

Thats all I ask...

 

[GAP]

no


question answered.

 

[Apple2018]

Thanks GAP, and you are right I do have lots still to learn this is just my first year though!... 

 

[shreenan]

Its not a big deal if the US built bases here, during the cold war the US had built/financed many radar stations in Canada.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Thanks GAP, and you are right I do have lots still to learn this is just my first year though!... 

clearly defined boarders.

Hopefully, spelling will be one of those things...

 

[Apple2018]

@shreenan:

Canada and the USA see sovereignty differently though. For us it is mostly trade if our government can have access to markets this too is a form of sovereignty.As for the Americans it is military defence, if you as Harper says "Use it or lose it." I would personally see have the Americans here as not good.

To me as a proud Canadian, we must be able to make our own decisions with the US bases here that would remove freedom from our Gov't as security is out sourced!

Here is a quote from Diefenbaker to responding to the USA in Parliament "Canadians will not consent to be committed to war on any snap decision made by another nation."
- May 13, 1953, House of Commons.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Apple2018,
Welcome to the site.  Just a friendly hint, we have folks on here who do, or have done, the 'real' political thing for a living. These people know "real-world" consequences of the political game, not the school world of it.  Please join in but just remember that tidbit of information please.
Thanks,
Bruce
Staff
army.ca

 

[Apple2018]

Thanks Bruce! I mean no disrespect anyway... I am glad to hear that as they can help on my understanding our nation better!

 

[Apple2018]

So having Americans soldiers stationed in Canada that would not be deemed a loss to our nation in anyway?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So having Americans soldiers stationed in Canada that would not be deemed a loss to our nation in anyway?

You tell us why it would.

 

[Sythen]

So having Americans soldiers stationed in Canada that would not be deemed a loss to our nation in anyway?

There are already American soldiers stationed in Canada and there are Canadians stationed in the US..

 

[dogger1936]

I grew up next to a US army base. And within 100km of two fully operational bases owned and ran by the Ol' USA. We were still a Canadian province then I'm sure we will be if they are stationed here again. I hadn't seen a Canadian soldier in my youth; but seen American soldiers near every week.

 

[Apple2018]

I guess it could be deemed so, as a loss of internal sovereignty who controls does our government have say on there operational extent. I cannot lie I would be just pissed, I think for me it is like an occupying force.

Our forefathers did everything they could too keep the Americans at bay, I think it changed after  WW2. And for sure after 9-11 I think that's when our sovereignty became more questionable at least to me! Like I said I love my nation beyond words there is noting I would not do for it . I would not give my life for the USA though! We must remain fully free its a question freedom for me! I am too proud I guess?

 

[Apple2018]

I know we have exchanges between us that's all good! I just do not want a American bases like in Europe or Germany's Frankfurt.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Again as stated we have not lost our sovereignty so relax and chill.

Milnet.Ca Staff

 

[ModlrMike]

The agreement you appear to refer to is the CANADA - US CIVIL ASSISTANCE PLAN (CAP). The full text of which is available here:

www.canadacom.forces.gc.ca/docs/pdf/cap_e.pdf

As you can see, there's no loss of sovereignty involved.

 

[Apple2018]

Thanks ModlrMike: I lost a lot of sleep over this stuff to put it kindly... Once again thanks!