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Canadian Surface Combatant RFQ
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I actually wrote way more but deleted it, ESM/EW is hard without "Warthundering" myself.After @Underway ‘s ….detailed response, I can only imagine their initial reaction to that question was this:
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Interesting munition. Probably won’t sink a crewed sub but it might give some defense against smaller shallow dive drone submarine…
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The Kingfisher gun-launched anti-submarine munition | Navy Lookout
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Spitballing here. What about between the main gun and the mk41, although exhaust from RAM could temporarily interfere with simultaneous launches from mk41. Astern, atop the hanger, although this may require relocating the helicopter radar. This would allow overlap for rounds coming abeam.
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I would think that would be concentrating an awful lot of weight in that one area, especially with a full load in the VLS.
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Unfortunately its not like lego. The under deck infrastructure is important. The beam will work completely fine.
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Do we even know what RAM system this is. Sea RAM or GMLS MK 49. Huge difference in just about every installation and integration configuration.
If it is Sea Ram, at 2 launchers the ship will end up with just 22 RIM 116 total before reload but there is Phalanx autonomy and little systems integration work.
If MK 49 system , at 2 launchers the ship would have 42 missiles in an installation 7 tons and requires a lot of expensive integration work.
If it is Sea Ram, at 2 launchers the ship will end up with just 22 RIM 116 total before reload but there is Phalanx autonomy and little systems integration work.
If MK 49 system , at 2 launchers the ship would have 42 missiles in an installation 7 tons and requires a lot of expensive integration work.
You’re right; it’s operational & structural issues that the Brits will have worked out in their planned use of Phalanx.
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Aegis already has done integration with RAM so not as expensive as one might think. But no, we don't actually know. Watch and shoot at this point I think.
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Scuttlebutt I’ve heard specified Mk.49 but pinch of salt at this point of course.
Been reading up all I can on the RAM block 2 missile. Substantial improvements to the guidance and propulsion over the block 1s. There is apparently also a block 2B, which Germany has just purchased. It seems the range of the Block 2 is around ~15 Km, versus ~10 for the block 1s.
RIM-116 RAM
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German Navy Orders RAM Block 2B SAMs
RAM-System GmbH (RAMSYS) was awarded a contract to deliver 600 Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) Block 2B surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) for the German Navy.
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And it looks like the USN is going to retrofit these to the Burke's (in the guise of the SeaRAM or Mk 49, depending on the version of Burke):
Rolling Airframe Missiles To Arm Arleigh Burke Destroyer Fleet
New point defenses, which come amid growing missile and drone threats, are just one Navy modernization effort for the Arleigh Burke class.
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There is an entry in Wikipedia now for the "River" class. Shows 2 x Mk 49 RAM launchers for CIADS - no Sea Ceptor. I realize Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable, but still, interesting to see nevertheless.
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River-class destroyer (2030s) - Wikipedia
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What do they know that we don't...There is an entry in Wikipedia now for the "River" class. Shows 2 x Mk 49 RAM launchers for CIADS - no Sea Ceptor. I realize Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable, but still, interesting to see nevertheless.
River-class destroyer (2030s) - Wikipedia
Though they still have the Xband illuminator which has been removed so yah... need a new image uploaded as well.
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Looks like they just took the page for the CSC, copied it and added or modified as required. Quick job to "stay with the times."
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The cool thing about Sea Ram is it could … cough .. could … be fitted to the JSS and in theory even the AOPs. The Mk 49, not so much.
But can you imagine every ship in the RCN having it or at least being able to use the same missiles.
But can you imagine every ship in the RCN having it or at least being able to use the same missiles.
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Deck chairs?
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I was wondering about that. With regards to the mk49, would it be able to take direction from the Sea Giraffe on the JSS?
