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Easily satisfied because you have low expectations from your Govt can be a blessing I guess.
CDN/US Covid-related political discussion
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Altair
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You are overly critical of Canada's WW2 effort, we tried our best.
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Don't know.....never been one to care about the past. History started in 1960 as far as I'm concerned....
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Iraq war 1, Afghanistan then.Don't know.....never been one to care about the past. History started in 1960 as far as I'm concerned....
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His comments on oxygen and carbon dioxide have been largely discredited, with a 2014 study in the American Journal of Infection Control showing no significant differences in levels between pregnant and non-pregnant women wearing N95 masks. Top Canadian WHO adviser under fire after downplaying airborne threat of COVID-19
I hope that his supervisors and/or colleagues are either telling him to shut up, discrediting him and/or hopefully firing his ass.
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I don't think that you've read a lot of Canadian military history or known too many veterans of that period, else you'd not write off this Country's contribution so casually. I've known a bunch of the latter, including a commando (who used to give us tips on silently knifing sentries when he got bored teaching the regular curriculum), a member of the Long Range Desert Group, a bomber Pilot shot down and captured, a Spitfire and later Mustang Pilot, and many more with more "average" experiences. There's a small but feisty ninety-six-year-old veteran of the D-Day landings, the Scheldt, and Holland living in my adoptive hometown of Stratford, Ontario that might like to differ with your opinion.
Canada was in the fight two years before the Americans, even though more movies were made about them.
Ten percent of the Canadian population served in the Armed Forces. Almost half of all aircrew in the RCAF, RAF, FAA, RAAF, and RNZAF were trained in Canada under the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan - over 131000 in total. Another million people worked in war industries and two million in vital food production. Half of the British Army's transport vehicles were produced in Canada, and Canada produced more wheeled military vehicles than the Axis nations combined - about 800000. Only the US produced more. A furniture company in Stratford was heavily involved in Mosquito production, part of the effort that resulted in the manufacture of 14000 aircraft. A good deal of the uranium used in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs was mined in the Northwest Territories and enriched in Port Hope, Ontario.
Canadian participation in the Battle of the Atlantic was absolutely crucial, with 165 million tons of cargo reaching Britain under Canadian escort and fifty-two U-boats sunk.
Canada's contribution to the Italian campaign - 1st Canadian Corps - was not insignificant, nor was its part in the bomber campaign over Germany.
The US population was 132 million. Nine percent served in WWII. The British population was 48 million. The combined population of 180 million controlled four of five beaches at Normandy, whereas that tiny population of 11 million only controlled one.
By war's end, the RCN was the world's third-largest navy and the RCAF the world's fourth-largest air force.
A lot of "duking it out" was done by this lightweight.
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In two world wars, Korea and Afghanistan, not to mention various peacekeeping missions including The Medak Pocket Operation, Canada has punched well above its weight.
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Sure was. But we were a middle power, and didn't do the things I mentioned.
We were not the biggest, didn't have the most beaches, didn't fight in every campaign. We didn't make the most tanks, most planes, most ships. We did a lot, but in terms of total contribution, others did much heavier lifting. Russians lost 20m, Americans 420k. Brits lost 450k. We lost 45k
Does that mean we did a poor job? NO! For a country of our size we did great. Nobody expected Canada to go island hoping in the pacific, or to take multiple beaches on D-Day.
Fast forward to today, I don't expect Canada to produce the most vaccines, or vaccinate the most people at the same rate as the USA or UK. I expect us to do what we can for a country of our size.
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Absolutely, but others in absolute terms, did more.
As for punching above its weight, we are outdoing Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Russia, Brazil, Turkey, Japan, Australia, Argentina, South Korea.
Some of the most powerful and diverse economies on the planet, in the G20, and we are solidly in 3rd and closing the gap to the Americans.
Yet because we are not right up there with them, somehow we are not doing well? Mediocre? I think for a country of our size with ZERO domestic vaccine production, we are doing pretty decent.
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I don't think anyone said anything about Canadians not "doing our bit" during the war.
But, we didn't have the capacity to produce Atomic bombs.
Same as now, we don't have the capacity to produce vaccines.
That was the fact in 1945, and in 2021.
But, we didn't have the capacity to produce Atomic bombs.
Same as now, we don't have the capacity to produce vaccines.
That was the fact in 1945, and in 2021.
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Ummmm, not fully manufacturing, but you do know we provided much of the enriched Uranium to the US, UK and France in the early nuclear days, right?
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Ummmm, right. Which is why I was very careful to use the word "produce".
I was also careful to say 1945, and "during the war". Not "the early nuclear days".
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Cough India and Pakistan cough
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No, that was “peaceful”...
I meant earlier that we were supplying weapons-grade U for the express purpose of supporting atomic weapons production.
we should have just taken the UNSC Permanent Seat when it was first offered and we were being such bad asses.
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Whatever... The US did Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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We peacefully ignored all warnings that our peaceful technology was peacefully being subverted for military purposes.
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Not whatever...we supplied fuel to their program. Canada was a contributor to those events. The US didn’t do it 100% independently.
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I wasn't meaning to derail, by point is Canada did what it could do, aided where it could, but nobody expected us to build a Canadian A Bomb, storm Iwo Jima, or land on multiple beaches in normandy.
We should not really expect Canada, the same middle power now as we were then, to be up by the superpowers of vaccine production. We will do what we can, in this case, not be worse than most of Europe.
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