chin-ups

[Brygun]

If you have a trainer who fits the above, good. But nothing, NOTHING, beats educating yourself.

Agree very much with paracowboy. Its part of why asking questions for first time knowledge or comparsion knowledge is useful when time isnt critical. As with all advice that sounds "odd" check the qualifications of the the source, good advice can almost always be referenced back or confirmed.

Any commericial gym is a buisness. Some business take pride in customer care some are focused on funds. For any of them to survive there must be SOME issue of funds else they have to go away. Professional "quality knowledge" places will be able to back up with credtionals of some sort. That said its unlikely anyone, professional or otherwise, would carry "in store" one they dont have at least have some faith in for someone... but is it right for you?

In educating yourself also have the integrity to know your limits, stay off self-advise on serious things. All those drug ads on TV afterall are to get you, low knowledge consumer, to pester the doctors, high knowledge professional, to ask for drug XXX. That means flashy or sexy ads to make consumer ignore knowledge and demand perscription (viagra for instance).

For busted teeth you still go to a dentist, for broken bones and bleeding arteries a hospital and shifted bones a chiropractor. Just about anything else is something you can do something about. Knowledgeable people of integrity are an asset. It is still your body. Like getting advise, good or bad, on who to marry its you that lives with the consequence.

 

[Brygun]

one more question HOW are you doing your chin ups?

Terms I've seen consistently around are:

Chin-up = Palms facing toward you. Full arm extension (my issue) with no support for legs (held up or high enough) and pulling to get chin above the bar (aka the hand line). (6 recommended, not mandatory, for my age/sex category)

Pull-up = As above with hands facing away from you.

 

[TheMachine]

First you dont have to pay; most of us get it for free simply because we are regulars at the gym. Second, a personal trainer could be a gym buddy, a best freind you meet at the gym, or someone you just met there and are working in with.

 

[Island Ryhno]

First you dont have to pay; most of us get it for free simply because we are regulars at the gym. Second, a personal trainer could be a gym buddy, a best freind you meet at the gym, or someone you just met there and are working in with.

IR, that's an irresponsible and inaccurate post, not to mention possibly quite dangerous. Oh and I'd like to know which gym you go to that gives you free personal trainers. I've only ever been to one, those were YMCA's, but recently they've dropped that like a hot potatoe, know why? Trainers are charging a fortune. Please, don't anybody take that " a personal trainer could be a gym buddy, a best freind you meet at the gym, or someone you just met there and are working in with." as advice, you could end up hurt.

 

[TheMachine]

IR, that's an irresponsible and inaccurate post, not to mention possibly quite dangerous. Oh and I'd like to know which gym you go to that gives you free personal trainers. I've only ever been to one, those were YMCA's, but recently they've dropped that like a hot potatoe, know why? Trainers are charging a fortune. Please, don't anybody take that " a personal trainer could be a gym buddy, a best freind you meet at the gym, or someone you just met there and are working in with." as advice, you could end up hurt.

Whats irresponsible and that can get you hurt is peer pressure. You get used to a routine and some buddy goes I bet you cant do 3 plates a side and you say sure I can.... If you have people skills, you get assistance to any question you have from the gym supervisors. This angle is advanced anyways, and can be annoying to them. So for anyone really new I would suggest a personal trainer, still. Just listen to him/her. Thats how I first started and found it more enjoyable plus I did way better. (my cousin was the best)

 

[paracowboy]

First you dont have to pay; most of us get it for free simply because we are regulars at the gym. Second, a personal trainer could be a gym buddy, a best freind you meet at the gym, or someone you just met there and are working in with.

Cherries, FNGs, wannabe's, and civvies: do not listen to this crap. It can get you hurt, possibly seriously enough that you will not be able to be accepted into the military. That is all I will add to this thread, as it has gotten astoundingly dumb, very fast.

 

[TheMachine]

Listen, I just went to a new gym today for a test run, see what it was like.

Why would you do this?

 

[TheMachine]

Cherries, FNGs, wannabe's, and civvies: do not listen to this crap. It can get you hurt, possibly seriously enough that you will not be able to be accepted into the military. That is all I will add to this thread, as it has gotten astoundingly dumb, very fast.

Crap eh? All my freinds are regulars, fitness trainers, sport teamates, supervisors, Police officers and University students in Sports Medicine to say the least. I have trust and respect in people I talk to and train with. Plus, im a really fit civvy and wannabe. ;D

 

[Jaxson]

Brygun: You just made me feel like an A$$ hole for pointing out one is a chin up, one is a pull up... i didn't even think about the name difference when i as writing what i wrote but then again i do consider them the same thing, except their reversed, oh well cheers mate

one more thing: IR a regular at a gym... an athlete and a police officer, sports medicine, thats all good and dandy, they know HOW to work out, how to train, but they are NOT certified trainers.

my 2 cents (0.02). ;D

 

[TheMachine]

Summary: If you dont have it in you to do basic amounts of chin ups see and or get advice from a certified personal trainer or you could hurt yourself. Good answer?

 

[Island Ryhno]

Why would you do this?

Would you keep the same routine for two years? No, then why wouldn't I try out the new gym in town and see what it has to offer? Your posts are getting increasingly bothersome. I've been in gyms in Edmonton, Calgary, Oshawa, Fredricton, Gagetown and St.John's, every gym has a different atmosphere and something different to offer. I suggest maybe you try a shake up of your gym and see how it works out.

 

[The_Falcon]

Crap eh? All my freinds are regulars, fitness trainers, sport teamates, supervisors, Police officers and University students in Sports Medicine to say the least. I have trust and respect in people I talk to and train with. Plus, im a really fit civvy and wannabe. ;D

Thats good for you, but what about others who aren't so lucky to blessed with such a wide assortment of people.  People new to gym or working my just take you advice ask the first person who looks huge and ripped to help them workout, and then when they get hurt have no form of recourse.  I don't go to the gym to socialize or meet people, I go to workout.  If someone asks for advice from me I tell them speak to the trainers, I'm busy.  You might think that is rude, but I find it incredibly rude for someone to come right up to me, without knowing me and start asking me questions.  I do help spot someone if they ask (politely) or the are about to crush themselves (but that is common curtesy at a gym).  If you aren't being paid by that particular gym it would be ill adviced to dispense any form of suggestion or advice to someone (especially if they didn't even ask for it.).

Whats wrong with checking out (test driving) a gym?  Every gym is different, if you have many in your area, you would be doing yourself a favour to check them out see whats right for you.  One might have a lot of machines, or a large free weight area, are not enough cardio equipment etc.  You are going to spending quite a bit of time and money in the place, you are gonna make sure you like it.

 

[Brygun]

*looks at compass*

*looks at map*

*looks at compass*

*looks at direction of vehicle*

Suggestion: Perhaps those going a new direction about physical trainers dos and don'ts could start a new thread.

 

[dylan_infantry]

Ya just keep practicing them I can only pull off 3 (fully extended arms) but i never used to of been able so just keep on practicing them.



Good luck.

 

[WannaBeFlyer]

Ya just keep practicing them I can only pull off 3 (fully extended arms) but i never used to of been able so just keep on practicing them.
Good luck.

Same here. Even worse, when I started, I was lucky to get 2 off. (then I was sore the next day and could not try again for four days :-[.)It wasn't that I wasn't working out, I had a three day routine with supersetting, suplements everything but I wasn't hitting the chin up areas nor was I getting anywhere. I can do sets of ten easily now but it took a lot of work and time. Some days ten is impossible though. Reminds me of running.

It seemed to be a function of my overall fitness for me. I cut back on the weights, did training that would replicate BMQ, did a lot more running and then it started to happen. Not to mention I dropped 25 lbs so it was easier to pull myself up.  ;D

 

[schwick]

once you have reached the 10-15 chin up mark
use a weight belt and at that point u will skyrocket ur reps to 20 in a month or two

 

[melissabillie]

Hello,

I've been trying to do chin ups for the longest time now and I still can't seem to do them. I have pretty good upper body strength but I can't seem to pull myself up. I'm hoping to join the Res Force in April and I want to be able to do a few chin ups before then.
Any tips?

Thanks.

 

[TimBit]

If you have access to a gym, there are machines that take some weight off your body weight. You could try those. Other than that, perform series of partial or negative chin ups. See here:

http://twentypullups.com/content/what-pull

As well, if you are trying pull ups (supination), try chin ups instead (pronation), then move to pull ups.

 

[Ascendant]

As well, if you are trying pull ups (supination), try chin ups instead (pronation), then move to pull ups.

You have that backwards.

Pull ups, as they are usually described, are performed with a pronated (palms facing away) grip.

Chin ups use a supinated (palms facing you) grip.

 

[Ascendant]

Hello,

I've been trying to do chin ups for the longest time now and I still can't seem to do them. I have pretty good upper body strength but I can't seem to pull myself up. I'm hoping to join the Res Force in April and I want to be able to do a few chin ups before then.
Any tips?

Thanks.

You can do negatives, use bands or, as mentioned, use a machine to reduce resistance.

If you can do a few chin ups, I would keep doing them as often as possible. If you want to get good at them, you need to do a lot of them and often.

Once you can do ~8-10 in one set, I'd do Recon Ron. It's a pretty tried, tested and true program, used by a lot of military folk from what I gather. You do the prescribed reps for the week every day, or as often as you can if you can't do seven days.

http://webpages.charter.net/bert/reconron.html

When I started on Week 1, it was really hard. I stopped at Week 14 and switched to weighted chin ups because, at that point, BW chin ups were no longer useful for my needs. I never missed reps and I was only doing it 3-4 times a week. I also got very good at chin ups.