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Hello Canadian Army people,

I am a soldier in the Peoples Republic of China Army and I am wondering if it is possible for people from China Army to exchange with Canada.
Is there such a program? I used to live in Canada and I would like to go back to work with Canada Army. I met some Canadian Army people who were my freinds and I think it would be fun and more exciting than here.

Thank you.
 
I forgot to mention I am a member of this forum:

http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/forum.shtml

You are welcome to join us if you want as we speak mostly English on this forum. It is mostly US Chinese people, but they all served.
 
Sorry but I highly doubt there's an exchange with the Communism thing and all.
 
The only excahange I can think of will be a POW exchange one day....
 
WOW.... that was mean lol  :o :o :o

I do highly doubt there is an exchange program but obviously if u wanted to be in the  :cdn: army then u would live here, correct? so in turn, in a few years you could become a canadian citizen and then join - might be very difficult but there is a chance, lots of immigrants join - so i have been witness too.


 
D. Military Exchange


China and Canada began to mutually accredit military attaches in 1973. In the 1980s, Vice Minister Mr. XIAO Ke and Minister ZHANG Aiping of National defense of China visited Canada respectively. Minister J. J. LAMONTAGNE and Chief of the Defense Staff General P. D. MANSON of the Department of National Defense of Canada also visited China respectively. In 1995, Deputy Chief of the Defense Staff Vice Admiral L. G. Mason visited China. In 1996, Deputy Chief of General Staff of the People's Liberation Army General QIAN Shugen paid a visit to Canada. In 1998, the Flotilla of the Canadian Navy visited Shanghai. In February 2000, Assistant Deputy Minister Calder from National Defense Canada visited China. In May, missile destroyer â Å“HMCS Algonquinâ ? and missile escort vessel â Å“HMCS Winnipegâ ?, led by Rear Admiral Kenneth F. McMillan of the Canadian Fleet Pacific, paid a visit to Qingdao. In September, missile destroyer â Å“Qingdaoâ ? and supporting vessel â Å“Tai Cangâ ? from the Chinese navy paid a four-day good-will visit to Canada.

source http://www.chinaembassycanada.org/eng/zjgx/China%20and%20Canada/t37677.htm

Try to contact the Canadian embassy (or a consular establishment) in China and ask them if there are any active exchanges. If yes then I guess you would have to apply through your chain of command (or whatever it is called there).

 
OK, thank you. I will contact the embassy and see if there is any information.

The only excahange I can think of will be a POW exchange one day..
Who you got? If you got someone good, maybe we can give back Elvis. He drive me crazy anyway.  :D
 
Excuse me Lee Yang but shouldn't you be prepping for this Dongshan/Taiwan exercise?  Or is that someone else's job?

China tests 'D-Day invasion' of Taiwan
From Oliver August in Beijing



 

 
CHINESE soldiers will for the first time rehearse a D-Day-style invasion of Taiwan on a densely populated island off the mainland coast this month.
The 18,000-man mock landing on the beaches of Dongshan Island is to involve amphibious assault craft, Russian-built fighter jets and submarines operating in the Taiwan Strait to ward off a simulated counter-attack by the US Seventh Fleet.

Reports of the exercise were greeted with thousands of supportive messages yesterday in mainland internet chatrooms, a sign of the immense popularity of Beijing's policy of striving for eventual control of Taiwan.



Dongshan Island is 150 miles from the southern tip of Taiwan and has the same geography and local dialect. The island is inhabited by one million people, compared with 22 million on Taiwan, which has a significantly larger landmass.

The mock invasion will be the first exercise aimed at â Å“taking control of the Taiwan Straitâ ?, according to a Shanghai newspaper. â Å“Sukhoi SU27 fighter jets will be outfitted with guided air-to-surface missiles, to ensure that tank brigades can make a landing and engage in warfare,â ? the New Express Daily reported.

The exercise comes at a time of high tension in the Taiwan Strait after the re-election of President Chen Shuibian of Taiwan, who is intensely disliked by Beijing for his pro-independence sentiments.

David Shambaugh, an expert on the Chinese military at George Washington University in Washington, said: â Å“I've been coming to China every year for the last 25 years and I have never sensed a higher level of anxiety over the Taiwan issue than at the present time.â ?

Regional security concerns will top the agenda when Condoleezza Rice, the US National Security Adviser, visits Beijing this week between trips to Tokyo and Seoul. She will have two days of talks with China's leaders â ” the first high-level consultation since a North Korea summit in Beijing last month and a visit to the Pentagon by Taiwanese arms buyers.

Although Dr Rice will meet senior Chinese leaders in Beijing, she is unlikely to be told exactly who until shortly before the meeting. The Communist Party leadership has a policy of deciding at the last minute who foreign visitors will meet in order to increase their leverage. China is concerned that Mr Chen is moving further towards formal independence, a step that would be most likely to trigger a Chinese military response, possibly a naval blockade.

Few analysts believe that the People's Liberation Army (PLA) is capable of getting a full-scale armada across the Taiwan Strait.

Nevertheless, thanks to billion-dollar arms purchases from Russia and exercises involving the Chinese Army, Navy and Air Force, Beijing's chances of retaking the island have risen significantly. Kenneth Lieberthal, a former White House adviser on China, said that Taiwan was wrong when it assumed that Beijing was â Å“all bluff when it talks about the use of forceâ ?.

The present tensions have fuelled a cross-strait arms race, with Washington promising Taipei billions of dollars of high-tech weapons to scare off China. Pentagon planners fear that Taiwan's deteriorating defences and its increasingly aggressive pro-independence posture could eventually drag the United States into conflict with China.

A large number of messages expressing support for an attack on Taiwan were posted on the internet after mention of the Dongshan Island exercise in the state media.

One said: â Å“Taking back Taiwan by force is only a matter of time. We don't have to be afraid of the US. China is never afraid of a paper tiger.â ?

Another wrote: â Å“It seems there is a common understanding among people in every chatroom: we should recapture Taiwan by force.â ? A commentator on the state news agency website wrote: â Å“China should put aside economic issues and first of all solve the Taiwan issue at all costs.â ?

A member of the Communist Party said: â Å“I work for a bank and I offer the following suggestion to our Government over the issue of Taiwan: there is no middle line between the mainland and Taiwan. The exercise should clearly show this to the world.â ?

Sabre rattling

1996 Missile tests and naval and air drills before Taiwan election.

1997 Ten days of exercises involving more than 100 warships.

1999 Landing exercises after talks between the two countries broke down.

2000 War games with 110,000 troops.

2001 Simulated assaults on outlying islands and engagement with US aircraft carrier.

2002 Small-scale drill across Taiwan Strait.

By the way how many carriers have the Americans surged your way on an exercise?  7 was it?  I understand there are some Canadians playing with them.  Maybe you'll have a chance to meet and have a few beers.

Best of luck. :cdn:
 
xcuse me Lee Yang but shouldn't you be prepping for this Dongshan/Taiwan exercise?  Or is that someone else's job?

No Mr Kirkhill, I am only in the Army for about 1 year now. I have finished my training and because of my education they make me a clerk first. I currently work just outside of Beijing where I process new recruits and help begin their training as I was taught. Soon I hope to get training as a field soldier. Many people consider that  I should be doing better things and the Army is not good for me. I think that also as I am in an office building all day and I do not feel like Army. That is why I would like to try an exchange with Canada so I can do better things.

These kind of exercise against Taiwan are faily common from what I read. Many people consider Taiwan to be our lost province and we will take it back someday. I believe that after China becomes more open and free like we are planning then they will join us without a fight.
 
LeeYang said:
The only excahange I can think of will be a POW exchange one day..
Who you got? If you got someone good, maybe we can give back Elvis. He drive me crazy anyway.   :D
LOL!  I enjoyed that.  Nice one! 

 
LeeYang said:
I believe that after China becomes more open and free like we are planning

The last time the Chinese held protests for democracy the Chinese Army slaughtered unarmed students with tanks, armoured personnel carriers and rifles....
 
I often see people roaming around RMC and CFB Kingston with military ID badges with the Chinese flag on them.

So maybe?
 
Grassroots reforms to Chinas political system are underway, mostly at the village level from what I understand.
Those reforms are a step in the right direction, but at the last Party Congress there was not much mention of Democratic reform, only political reform within the party.
Leeyang can correct me if I'm wrong on that point.
Of course, the last time a communist government gave it's people an inch of democratic reform the government didn't fare well.

 
Many people consider Taiwan to be our lost province and we will take it back someday.

Well right now Quebec seemes to have an all time high of support for separtation. (Bernard Landry made a statement saying the same thing) I sure hope we don't lose Quebec ::).
 
Nope we need Infanteer around here (somebody has to clean up after parties in the mess)

How about we give them Army Brat, Pieman, and cheeky_monkey. That's a three for one deal.

How about it Lee Yang?   We'll even toss in a case of Timbits too. 8)
 
Taiwan is looked on by the majority of the world as its own FREE country, and no matter what, they would never join the Communist China, ever.

If China wants to come out of the dark ages, including human rights abuses, and be fully excepted by the world, they must conclude that Taiwan is a free country, and let them live the way they want to.

Any aggression towards Taiwan would also be viewed the same by the majority of us throughout the world, and could prevoke a defensive response by Taiwan and her allies.

At the end of the day any invasion or aggression by China would not benifit the PRC economically, and we all know what the PRC was like not that long ago.

Look what happened back in the spring of 1989, when the PRC murdered its own students (machinegunned countless unarmed students just for protesting), and on the TV news too.

The whole world was watching then.

My view and 2 cents worth.

Cheers,

Wes
 
Lee Yang I find your story a bit on the far side.
A ordinary clerk in PLA is allowed to converse with member's of Western Force's?
Me think's not.
Who are you in all reality?

As for an exchange,how about sending us some good,honest,hard working people who will respect our laws and we will send back all those criminal's you have sent us.
 
Spr.Earl said:
As for an exchange,how about sending us some good,honest,hard working people who will respect our laws and we will send back all those criminal's you have sent us.

Criminals...? As far as I know immigrants from China and other South Asian countries are the most honest, hardworking and skilled people Canada receives these days. I live in Toronto, I can tell you which people are lazy, pretensional and often turn to crime.

Taiwan is an autonomous, prosperous state, any attempts to undermine their sovereignty will be crushed. Period.
 
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