Chinese Military,Political and Social Superthread

[daftandbarmy]

Well he knows about Quantum computers…

…and he also know about non-plastics papery bottle thingies…

 

[RangerRay]

Retired Mountie charged with helping Beijing intimidate someone.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-officer-foreign-interference-1.6913872

 

[daftandbarmy]

Finally, someone came to their senses....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1685692559371247617

 

[OldSolduer]

Finally, someone came to their senses....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1685692559371247617

Let us hope a few more people do.

 

[RangerRay]

Premier Eby should be more mindful of who he hangs out with.

Pro-Beijing community leader said Chinese Canadians will “punish bad politicians with votes”

As an advisor to B.C. Premier David Eby, Ding Guo (丁果) constantly sides with Beijing and defends its human rights abuses.

foundintran.substack.com

 

[Kirkhill]

China has made its first strike on the West​

Before it’s too late, not only America but all of its Western allies must grasp that the Chinese Communist Party behaves like an enemy
MATTHEW HENDERSON3 August 2023 • 2:33pm


It is becoming increasingly clear that Chinese computer hackers may have penetrated American military and civil critical infrastructure in ways that could cripple a US response to Chinese armed aggression from the outset. Certainly that would align with Beijing’s strategy, familiar from Sun Tzu’s “Art of War”, which is to win the war before a shot is fired.
In the modern digital context this entails preemptive cyber attacks not just against its enemies’ military forces, but also on the pillars of social and economic security, including communications, transport, energy, water and health systems. The aim is to damage opponents so badly that battle would never be joined, or only briefly before they collapse into domestic disarray and disaster.
To achieve this, China must first access data on the targets it wants to disrupt, and then devise cyber attacks that will avoid preventive measures and create sudden, irreversible havoc. The US is now desperately hunting for malicious software discovered inside the power grids and communications systems that supply its military. The tools for a pre-emptive first strike against the West could already be in place.
It seems that US intelligence became aware of a serious threat to national security in February, around the time of the spy balloon episode. Since May, according to Microsoft, Chinese hackers have been secretly accessing data from the State Department and Commerce Department, among other targets including Western European entities.
These developments are part of an established pattern. A Chinese attack in 2021, compromising the Microsoft exchange server, was blamed by the UK Foreign Office and National Cyber Security Centre on the Chinese Ministry of State Security. A year later, the directors of the UK and US security services together announced that China “posed the biggest long-term threat to our economic and national security”. At the same time Nato, at its 2022 Summit, declared that “the PRC’s malicious hybrid and cyber operations and its confrontational rhetoric and disinformation target allies and harm alliance security”.

The US military is scrambling to find out how badly Chinese cyber warfare has compromised America’s defences. The UK lags far behind; despite years of clear warnings by the intelligence and security community, there has yet to be a proper UK response. However uncomfortable it may be to accept for beneficiaries of the faux “Golden Era” when Beijing bought its way into the UK establishment, the CCP was then, and is now, waging relentless hybrid warfare against us and our Allies and partners.

Beijing was shamefully welcomed into our nuclear sector, and deeply embedded in much else. It is to be assumed that they are hoovering up vast quantities of British data, encrypted and unencrypted. What they can’t read now, they are believed to be storing against the day that evolving quantum computer technologies crack the codes.

Before it’s too late, not only America but all of its Western allies and partners must grasp that the Chinese Communist Party – and not the unfortunate citizens it rules over – looks like an enemy and acts like an enemy because it is our enemy. Will it take catastrophic cyber attacks on our civil critical infrastructure and our militaries being brought to their knees before a shot is fired for our politicians to wake up?

China has made its first strike on the West

Before it’s too late, not only America but all of its Western allies must grasp that the Chinese Communist Party behaves like an enemy

www.telegraph.co.uk

Throw in the Wolf Warriors

Understanding Chinese “Wolf Warrior Diplomacy” | The National Bureau of Asian Research (NBR)

www.nbr.org

Alinsky Rules[edit]​

1. "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people."
3. "Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
8. "Keep the pressure on."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative."
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."

When the west raises the issue of foreign interference counter with:
McCarthy.
Japanese internment.
Komagatu Maru.
Galicians.
Racism.

We may not have agreed with the prescriptions but the diagnoses weren't unfounded. There were real threats. There still are real threats. How do you counter them and not generate collateral damage among the innocent?


Alinsky has replaced Sun Tzu and Clausewitz.

 

[RangerRay]

Sam Cooper‘a latest on Beijing’s control over Chinese language media in Canada.

Beijing's control of media in Canada enabled election interference: CSIS documents

The Bureau's exclusive investigation finds senior Chinese official allegedly instructed journalists in Toronto to support the rise of a federal politician

www.thebureau.news

Former Vancouver-based newspaper editor Victor Ho, who is anonymously cited in a CSIS document reviewed for this story, confirmed CSIS’s chief allegations.

Asked whether he agrees the Chinese Communist Party is secreting money into election interference networks and using Canadian media to support Beijing’s chosen candidates, Ho said: “That is exactly the case.”

“The CCP weaponizes the Chinese media to gain election intervention,” Ho said. “To do this, the Chinese Consulates in Canada make every effort to influence the top Chinese editing teams in Canada.”

 

[Edward Campbell]

This needs an hour ion your time but I suggest it's a hour well spent.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Past time to make a clean break and acknowledge Taiwan as an independent country, and push back in other ways. Express our displeasure with Chinese interference and espionage concretely. CPC could probably make this a foreign policy plank; LPC not.

 

[Brad Sallows]

This needs an hour ion your time but I suggest it's a hour well spent.

Supports what amounts to a return/prolongation of Strategy of Technology - which includes not unnecessarily/carelessly sharing technology.

 

[Halifax Tar]

This needs an hour ion your time but I suggest it's a hour well spent.

Found it on Spotify! TY.

 

[Kirkhill]

This needs an hour ion your time but I suggest it's a hour well spent.

The dichotomy between Taiwan and Ukraine and the urging to "pick one" -

That seems to me to be in line with those that are arguing that Ukraine should pick one axis and focus on it when they have a 1200 km front to deal with. To me these seem to be "all of the above" answers. You can't afford to ignore any portion of the front because the other side will be constantly looking for exploitable weaknesses. And that applies equally to both sides of the "front". With limited resources "strength" here means "weakness" there.

Napoleon's and Wellington's battles were often won and lost by the reserves and when and where they were committed. In fact that is probably true of most wars.

 

[RangerRay]

More on Beijing’s interference in the 2021 elections on WeChat. The Aussies are noticing our problems here.

CSIS document says WeChat weaponized to defeat Conservatives in 2021

Part 2 of The Bureau's CCP-media control investigation: CSIS report validates allegations that Beijing used social media to turn Chinese-Canadians against Conservative Party

www.thebureau.news

 

[QV]

There has never been, is none now, and never will be any interference in any electoral processes. These processes are so pure and unquestioningly accurate and right even the divine has no authority to doubt.

Questioning the integrity of elections above or below the 49th parallel is conspiratorial and an affront of the highest order. It is simply not possible.

-15 social credits for anyone even thinking silently to themselves that something isn't right.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Let the consequences commence:

China leaves Canada off list of countries approved for group tours​

OTTAWA — Canadians are missing out on major tourism revenue from Chinese visitors as Beijing leaves Canada off its list of approved travel destinations — a move that it is linking directly to Ottawa's recent focus on alleged foreign interference.

China lifted a pandemic ban on group tours to countries last week including the United States and Australia, but tourists are still barred from group visits to Canada.

The change announced by China's culture and tourism ministry on Aug. 10 has allowed Chinese and online travel agencies to book group tours and packages for Chinese tourists in 70 more countries all over the world.
Canada was quietly left off the list.

The snub is related to Canadian politicians' recent focus on allegations of foreign interference by Beijing, as first reported by CBC News.
"Lately, the Canadian side has repeatedly hyped up the so-called 'Chinese interference,'" the Chinese embassy in Ottawa said in a statement to The Canadian Press on Wednesday.

The embassy also expressed concern about an increase in "rampant and discriminatory anti-Asian acts and words" in Canada.
"The Chinese government attaches great importance to protecting the safety and legitimate rights of overseas Chinese citizens and wishes they can travel in a safe and friendly environment," the embassy said.

Allegations of foreign meddling in Canadian politics seized the federal government last spring following media reports earlier this year about claims China tried to interfere in the last two federal elections.

Opposition parties have been negotiating with the federal government for weeks to develop plans for a public inquiry into foreign interference after former governor general David Johnston resigned his short-lived position as a special rapporteur on the issue.

China leaves Canada off list of countries approved for group tours

OTTAWA — Canadians are missing out on major tourism revenue from Chinese visitors as Beijing leaves Canada off its list of approved travel destinations — a move that it is linking directly to Ottawa's recent focus on alleged foreign interference.

www.timescolonist.com

 

[dimsum]

Let the consequences commence:

China leaves Canada off list of countries approved for group tours​

OTTAWA — Canadians are missing out on major tourism revenue from Chinese visitors as Beijing leaves Canada off its list of approved travel destinations — a move that it is linking directly to Ottawa's recent focus on alleged foreign interference.

China lifted a pandemic ban on group tours to countries last week including the United States and Australia, but tourists are still barred from group visits to Canada.

The change announced by China's culture and tourism ministry on Aug. 10 has allowed Chinese and online travel agencies to book group tours and packages for Chinese tourists in 70 more countries all over the world.
Canada was quietly left off the list.

The snub is related to Canadian politicians' recent focus on allegations of foreign interference by Beijing, as first reported by CBC News.
"Lately, the Canadian side has repeatedly hyped up the so-called 'Chinese interference,'" the Chinese embassy in Ottawa said in a statement to The Canadian Press on Wednesday.

The embassy also expressed concern about an increase in "rampant and discriminatory anti-Asian acts and words" in Canada.
"The Chinese government attaches great importance to protecting the safety and legitimate rights of overseas Chinese citizens and wishes they can travel in a safe and friendly environment," the embassy said.

Allegations of foreign meddling in Canadian politics seized the federal government last spring following media reports earlier this year about claims China tried to interfere in the last two federal elections.

Opposition parties have been negotiating with the federal government for weeks to develop plans for a public inquiry into foreign interference after former governor general David Johnston resigned his short-lived position as a special rapporteur on the issue.

China leaves Canada off list of countries approved for group tours

OTTAWA — Canadians are missing out on major tourism revenue from Chinese visitors as Beijing leaves Canada off its list of approved travel destinations — a move that it is linking directly to Ottawa's recent focus on alleged foreign interference.

www.timescolonist.com

That was news to me when I was in Ottawa. I definitely saw Chinese tour groups.

 

[daftandbarmy]

That was news to me when I was in Ottawa. I definitely saw Chinese tour groups.

It's a $2B annual hit to the bottom line of tourism sector businesses... and I assume this is just the 'warmer into the bank'....

"In 2018, a record 757,000 Chinese travellers came to Canada, and spend C$2 billion, according to Statistics Canada."

Tourism industry expecting hit after China leaves Canada off approved travel list

Canada has been left off China’s approved list of international destinations for tour groups, in an apparent political boycott.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Furniture]

It's a $2B annual hit to the bottom line of tourism sector businesses... and I assume this is just the 'warmer into the bank'....

"In 2018, a record 757,000 Chinese travellers came to Canada, and spend C$2 billion, according to Statistics Canada."

Tourism industry expecting hit after China leaves Canada off approved travel list

Canada has been left off China’s approved list of international destinations for tour groups, in an apparent political boycott.

www.ctvnews.ca

Seems like an acceptable loss if we want to be serious about standing up to Chinese interference in our affairs.

 

[RangerRay]

It's a $2B annual hit to the bottom line of tourism sector businesses... and I assume this is just the 'warmer into the bank'....

"In 2018, a record 757,000 Chinese travellers came to Canada, and spend C$2 billion, according to Statistics Canada."

Tourism industry expecting hit after China leaves Canada off approved travel list

Canada has been left off China’s approved list of international destinations for tour groups, in an apparent political boycott.

www.ctvnews.ca

Will that be Trudeau’s excuse to call off the public enquiry and foreign agent registry, and go back to kowtowing to Beijing?

 

[JLB50]

I’m not going to be shedding any tears if China doesn’t want their citizens to spend their money in Canada.

One year ago this month my wife and I were in Banff National Park on vacation and there were so many people there (with probably the vast majority of them tour groups from China) that Moraine Lake and Lake Louise were basically closed off to all but those arriving by bus. It was total madness. Hell, once we made it to Lake Louise, the Chateau itself was virtually closed to all but guests. The viewpoints at Peyto Lake were so crowded that those taking pictures were getting shoved as more people arrived. Having been to the western parks numerous times over the last 50 years I’ve never seen anything like it and my wife says she never wants to go back, preferring to remember what is used to be like. Mind you, Jasper National Park wasn’t nearly as crowded.