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Chinese Military,Political and Social Superthread

The US puts a penalty on Chinese built ships. There is a interesting bit that China requires all ships built for Chinese firms to be convertible for military use in a short period of time and has a office to work on civilian to military conversions. That bit starts at 10:45 in the video.

 
The author of this article claims that intelligence sources are saying that China may invade Taiwan within the next six months.


Website seems fairly legit (listed as "Mostly Factual" with "Right-Centre Bias" on mediabiasfactcheck.com.

A few months ago I would have been unconvinced, but the way 2025 is unfolding who really knows?
 
The author of this article claims that intelligence sources are saying that China may invade Taiwan within the next six months.


Website seems fairly legit (listed as "Mostly Factual" with "Right-Centre Bias" on mediabiasfactcheck.com.

A few months ago I would have been unconvinced, but the way 2025 is unfolding who really knows?
I won’t say that such an action is unprecedented. Trump has already paved the way by threatening to invade Panama and Greenland.
 
The lady is hard to follow, as I think English is her second language. The gist is that precovid, China's population was estimated at 750 million.

 
The lady is hard to follow, as I think English is her second language. The gist is that precovid, China's population was estimated at 750 million.

didn't they use to claim a population of over 1 billion? Heck 750 isn't that many more than the U.S.
 
didn't they use to claim a population of over 1 billion? Heck 750 isn't that many more than the U.S.
Yes, all the way to 1.6, although they recently claimed 1.1billion. I don't know about the 430 Million, seem a bit low, but I am going split the difference and estimate for now around 700 million, which is still roughly double that of the US.
 
China rolling out more kit that's geared toward amphibious operations:


2027 ticks nearer...
 
Interesting take - somebody thinks Trump's tariffs may be impacting China


“Chinese society has an incredibly high capacity for pain,” Yasheng Huang of the MIT Sloan School of Management told the Wall Street Journal last month. And because China’s people can supposedly “eat bitterness”, the phrase commonly used to describe the country’s capacity to endure hardship, we are told that Chinese leaders have the luxury of looking past temporary adversity to think long term.

Yes, both those notions were once true and both are accepted wisdom. But, no, they are no longer correct. In fact, China’s society today is among the least resilient anywhere.

Even before Donald Trump took the oath of office in January, the Chinese people were showing signs of disillusionment, despair, and anger. Now, with their economy probably contracting and their country caught up in a tense trade war, Chinese society is beginning to come under new stress.

The regime certainly appears to be on edge, looking desperately to the past for ways to keep the population on side. On April 9, Foreign Ministry spokesperson Mao Ning posted a Korean War-era video of Mao Zedong. “No matter how long this war is going to last, we’ll never yield,” Mao said in the clip from 1953. “We will fight until we completely triumph.”

Then on April 28, Beijing Daily, the official newspaper of the Communist Party’s Beijing Municipal Committee, published an article titled “Today, It Is Necessary to Revisit On Protracted War”. On Protracted War is a series of lectures Mao delivered in 1938 calling for the unity of the Chinese people in their struggle to defeat the invaders from Imperial Japan.

China’s regime has good reason to be worried about the mood of the Chinese people.

The warning signs were plain to see. Due to the extraordinary Covid lockdowns and the subsequent failure of the economy to recover, people began withdrawing from society in large numbers. For many Chinese, it was the first time they had ever experienced a downturn. The last officially recognised recession had occurred in 1976.

“‘Lying flat,’ ‘Buddha whatever,’ ‘Kong Yijiism,’ ‘involution’ – China today has so many memes for opting out,” wrote the University of Pennsylvania’s Victor Mair in his July 2023 Language Log posting titled “The Growing Supinity of Chinese Youth”. Since then, young Chinese have also been “retiring” by leaving cities and taking up farming.

Pessimism – even nihilism – accounts for the large number of Chinese people leaving their country for good
and for the precipitous drop in birth rates. According to one estimate, China’s total fertility rate last year was just 1.03, well below the replacement rate of 2.1. “In this country, to love your child is to never let him be born in the first place,” read a comment posted on a Chinese site in 2023. Young Chinese, who refuse to have children, are calling themselves “the last generation”.

Many argue that the Communist Party’s sophisticated social controls can keep the populace in line indefinitely, but the price of severe repression is volatility. The Chinese population, who most of the time have accepted repression, have periodically and unexpectedly exploded.

Beginning in October 2022, for instance, large numbers of workers suddenly fled a Chinese manufacturing complex making iPhones in Zhengzhou, in central China. That incident was followed by spontaneous protests across the country. In November, chants of “Step down, Xi Jinping” were heard on the streets of Shanghai.

Eventually, the demonstrations died down, but the people of the People’s Republic have a greater willingness to protest than is sometimes imagined. The Communist Party, as a result, feels insecure. That’s especially true now as Trump’s tariffs have hit Chinese workers hard. The US, after counting rerouted goods, takes almost 21 per cent of China’s exports. Export-oriented factories are reported to be closing and worker protests are said to have become common across the country.

The regime fears mass protests because the Chinese people, even in calm times, have a history of acting in concert. Last June, four female college students in Zhengzhou decided to take an overnight 50-km bike ride to Kaifeng for soup dumplings. The craze caught on, and in November tens of thousands were making the overnight treks. Authorities tried to limit the number of riders, and there were even reports that colleges and universities were restricting students from congregating and participating, but to little avail.

Meanwhile, Xi Jinping’s grip on the Communist Party may be weakening. Xi’s hatchet man in the military, General He Weidong, has not been seen in public since early March, and may have been sacked. Other indications suggest that Xi is no longer in full control of the military, having lost influence to General Zhang Youxia, vice-chairman of the Party’s Central Military Commission and China’s number one uniformed officer.

There are also signs that Xi is facing stiff opposition in the senior civilian ranks of the party.

That which is not allowed to bend will break.
 
Interesting take - somebody thinks Trump's tariffs may be impacting China








That which is not allowed to bend will break.
I keep thinking back to An Imperial cabinet room in St. Petersburg on that day in 1904 when someone uttered the phrase . " What this country really needs is a short victorious war ".
I suspect it was repeated in 1982 in Argentina.
People confronted with desperate times tend to make desperate choices.
 
I keep thinking back to An Imperial cabinet room in St. Petersburg on that day in 1904 when someone uttered the phrase . " What this country really needs is a short victorious war ".
I suspect it was repeated in 1982 in Argentina.
People confronted with desperate times tend to make desperate choices.
"Let's steal Siberia."
 
Interesting take - somebody thinks Trump's tariffs may be impacting China








That which is not allowed to bend will break.

It's traditional to underestimate China in the West, however...

Underestimating China: Why America Needs a New Strategy of Allied Scale” published in Foreign Affairs (April 2025), Kurt M. Campbell and Rush Doshi argue that the United States risks complacency by overestimating its long-term advantage over China. The authors contend that despite recent economic headwaves, China remains the most formidable competitor the U.S. has faced—economically, technologically, and militarily.

They critique Washington’s recent shift toward triumphalism, remarking that while China’s growth has slackened, it continues to command massive scale: twice the manufacturing output of the U.S., the world’s largest navy, and leading positions in pressing technologies like hypersonics, electric vehicles, and nuclear energy. They argue that scale —not just size is the key to strategic advantage, and China has already achieved it.

Campbell and Doshi retain that the U.S. cannot match China’s scale alone. Instead, it must hearth a radically new approach to alliances—one that treats partners not as dependents, but as co-creators of military, industrial, and technological might. This includes combined production, pooled markets, coordinated export controls, and joint innovation. Only through such a tactic of “allied scale” can the U.S. counterpoise China’s systemic advantage.

The authors caution that U.S.’s unilateralism embrace—especially the “America First” doctrine in fact downplays alliances—it will soon replicate Britain’s decline during larger industrial rivals a century ago. Contrarily, a cohesive democratic bloc could outdo China across key indicators.

The article concludes with the notion that the challenge is not China’s rise exclusively, but America’s response to it. If the U.S. fails to reimagine alliances as a platform for collective scale, it may find itself outdone by an opponent that is not just rising—one already towering.

For India, this article suggests an opportunity to be a central player in a U.S.-led coalition designed to counter China’s strategic scale, putting its congruity to use. Additionally, contributing industrial capacity, technological innovation, and regional deterrence, with which India can help build the kind of integrated alliance architecture the author’s advocate. In this emerging strategy of allied scale, India should actualise not just as partner—but as a pillar in preserving global balance.


 
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