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Chinese Military,Political and Social Superthread

Some concise wisdom from the Twitterverse:

"China needs ro learn more about the world and the world needs to learn more about China."
David Pilling, Asia Editor of the Financial Times
 
Just to show how deep the tea leaf reading can become, consider this article which is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the South China Morning Post:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1082612/hu-jintaos-place-communist-party-hierarchy
Hu Jintao's place in the Communist Party hierarchy

Teddy Ng in Beijing

Thursday, 15 November, 2012

What rank will Hu Jintao hold in the Communist Party hierarchy after he stands down as its general secretary? The answer to that will most likely provide some hint about the extent of Hu's residual influence.

Will he rank No 3, after his successor Xi Jinping and predecessor Jiang Zemin? If so, it will be a conspicuous sign that Xi will be overshadowed by the two previous party chiefs, even though the party has hailed another smooth transition of power?

Since Jiang handed over the baton to Hu 10 years ago his name has always ranked second after Hu's in the party hierarchy. This follows a tradition of showing respect to former party chiefs, taking into account their impact and legacy.

Jiang is always given a prominent position in state events he attends - a sign that he is still an influential figure. At a military parade celebrating the nation's 60th anniversary in 2009, Jiang was on a stage together with Hu to review the troops. But analysts say Hu's legacy in the party is likely to fade fast and he will not place himself before Jiang, meaning that the best he could hope for is No3 in the hierarchy.

The names of retired leaders appear on occasions such as major party celebrations, or when party elders pay tribute at the funerals of party veterans.

The order of the names strictly follows the hierarchy of the party. In the past 10 years, Jiang's name has always come after Hu's, but before Wu Bangguo's . Wu ranked second in the Politburo Standing Committee during Hu's administration.

But if Hu wants to break the tradition, he could rank ninth after Xi, Jiang and the new members of the Politburo Standing Committee. That would most likely not go down well among his supporters.

Professor Gu Su from Nanjing University said that with the political future of Hu's protégé Ling Jihua (his former chief of staff) in question, Hu does not have a right-hand man capable of consolidating respect for him inside the party.

But Hu will not be totally out of the picture because party elders always have some say in party affairs.

Professor Wang Yukai of the Chinese Academy of Governance said: "Hu's views will still be very important when the new leaders consult the elders."


We used to have, in major Western capitals, a sort of "cottage industry" of well paid Kremlin watchers who tried to analyze what obscure things meant in Churchill's "riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma." The Chinese are just as obscure, maybe even more so, than the Russians and it is probably true that whose name goes second or third on some list tells us something useful.
 
Despite some problematic historical references (the CCP now "will have edged out the Soviet Union for the title of history’s longest-serving authoritarian regime" ~ really, the author has never heard of, say, the Byzantins, the Moghuls or the Manchus?) this article, which is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the New Yorker, offer a look at Xi Jinping's personality and, more importantly focuses on one of the Standing Committee's key challenges - determining the "will of the people:"

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/evanosnos/2012/11/chinas-new-chief-xi-jinping.html
Letter from China: CHINA’S NEW CHIEF

POSTED BY EVAN OSNOS

November 15, 2012

The Great Hall of the People, which stretches the length of three football fields beside Tiananmen Square, was built, at Chairman Mao’s command, by the hands of volunteers. In recent years, it has lost quite a bit of its sacred populist sheen, because it has to pay for its own upkeep by renting itself out to paying customers. “Riverdance” had a run there, as did “Cats,” and it hosts a steady stampede of conventioneers, such as the two thousand restaurant managers from K.F.C. who came to talk chicken.

On Thursday, however, the Great Hall of the People returned to its full orthodox splendor, if only for a few hours, for a peculiar ritual to mark the arrival of the new Standing Committee of the Politburo, the group of seven men who will lead the People’s Republic for the next ten years. (If they succeed, China’s Communist Party will have edged out the Soviet Union for the title of history’s longest-serving authoritarian regime.) Their début is, by tradition, a kind of Communist catwalk—officially, a “meet the press” opportunity, though no questions are asked, and none are answered. It is a performance as retro and choreographed as “Cats,” but, in its details, it gave us a few intriguing hints about the men who will seek to project China’s Communist Party into the future.

I wedged myself into the crowd of photographers in the back to watch the show. The first member of the Politburo to emerge from behind a lacquered Chinese screen and take his place on the dais was, as expected, China’s new general secretary, Xi Jinping. He is the first among equals, and he will be the face of the country. By now, Xi’s bio is familiar to those with an interest in such things: the son of a Communist icon, he paid his dues in the countryside during the Cultural Revolution, and later showed enough free-market instincts during his soar up through the ranks for Hank Paulson to call him a “guy who really knows how to get over the goal line.” In person, Xi is a sharp contrast to the man he replaces, the robotic Hu Jintao, who spoke esoteric jargon about “harmonious society” and “a scientific outlook on development.” Hu leaves office unloved.

His successor is a ruddy-cheeked bear of a figure with a pomaded part to his hair, a rich radio voice, and a preference for the kind of roomy Western suits you expect on a regional sales rep. The full picture evokes Jackie Gleason more than Zhou Enlai. At rest, Xi wears a permanently placid half-smile that suggests confidence, even if his actual thoughts are unknowable at this point. Divining anything about Xi’s politics from his public persona is a mug’s game, but one thing is beyond doubt: he conveys an understanding of style that utterly eluded his predecessor, and an awareness that he will be judged more openly and mercilessly than any paramount Chinese leader before him. His citizens’ experience with technology, prosperity, and cynicism has forced him to confront a problem that is now more acute than his predecessors ever faced: he was never elected, but he must figure out a way to be liked.

“We are not complacent,” Xi said, in an acknowledgement that the Party has become complacent. “And we will never rest on our laurels.” He then ticked off a list so honest that he may come to regret it. “Under the new conditions, our Party faces many severe challenges, and there are also many pressing problems within the Party that need to be resolved, particularly corruption, bribe-taking, being removed from the people, and some Party officials’ reliance on formalities and bureaucracy.”

His speech was no barn burner, but it was refreshingly free of Party hymns. He never mentioned the harmonious society, or Jiang Zemin’s tortured locution, “the three represents.” Instead, he referred so often to “the people” that it seems destined to become a watchword of his tenure. “It is the people who have created history,” he said, “and it is the people who are true heroes. The people are the source of our strength.”

Those gestures of populist sensibility—the sense that, like it or not, the Party must figure out a way to be responsive—stand out especially because they are at odds with the credentials of the men that Xi will have by his side. Xi did not choose them exactly; they are a compromise between powerful families and factions. And when the members were unveiled, their composition confirmed what pundits had predicted: reform-minded candidates had been sidelined. Instead, the Party chose some of its most ardent conservatives. One is a seasoned propagandist. Another received his economics training in North Korea. They were so faithful to precedent that all but one wore a nearly identical dark suit and red tie. After months of secretive politicking over questions of reform and legitimacy, the Party seems to have sided with what one politics-watcher called the “unwritten party rule which favored seniority over competence.”

For Xi, it has the makings of a precarious assignment. When he vanished for a couple of weeks with a mysterious illness a few months ago, people in Beijing joked that maybe he took stock of the job he was being given—clean up the Party, maintain the economic miracle, restore public faith—and then took to his bed. But, sure enough, he reappeared, and, there he was this week, ready to play his role, with the chorus line assigned to him whether he likes it or not.

When it was all over this morning, and the seven men had returned once again to the secluded backstage of the Great Hall of the People, trailed by their security, and the stage where they had stood was suddenly empty. I walked up to the spot where Xi Jinping had stood to deliver his remarks. It was carpeted in a brilliant shade of red, and at his feet there was a small piece of tape in the shape of the number one, to indicate where the most powerful man in China should stand. He looked out over a line of poinsettias and ferns, to a wall of cameras, and a world of expectations from his people. It must have been terrifying.


Terrifying, indeed! The Chinese people rarely see their leaders in person, everything is carefully choreographed so image and a populist touch is important. He will be obeyed, even, almost, revered, but the fate of Deng Xiaoping's dynasty, which Xi now heads, rests on his ability to be "loved" and, through that "love" to cement the dynasty's legitimacy in place ~ to secure the mandate of heaven.

Now, in old China, the mandate of heaven depended upon the dynastic emperor's virtues: justice, fairness and competence. I think Xi must display similar virtues, and he appears to grasp that when, repeating Hu Jintao, he says that 'our Party faces many severe challenges, and there are also many pressing problems within the Party that need to be resolved, particularly corruption, bribe-taking, being removed from the people, and some Party officials’ reliance on formalities and bureaucracy.”

Above, all Xi must find a way to convince China's billion plus people that he, and his government, which extends down through every province, city, district and into each village, understands where the people want to be led and that he is intent on taking them there. He doesn't have the advantages of a free press and regular, free and fair elections to "take the pulse" of his country, but Xi's China is vastly different from Mao's China and Mao's techniques will not work any more.
 
China is looking for an airbase in the Azores. Not sure why unless they think there are off shore oil/gas reserves.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...ntic-gordon-g-chang#
 
tomahawk6 said:
China is looking for an airbase in the Azores. Not sure why unless they think there are off shore oil/gas reserves.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...ntic-gordon-g-chang#


See somewhere earlier in this thread where someone (Thucydides?) talks about the "string of pearls" programme to build bases, primarily naval bases, stretching all the way from China to Suez and, I think, down towards Australia.
 
I just saw a note that says that there is no plan, neither international nor national, for a replacement for the International Space Station, nor for its maintenance beyond about 2025.

After that it is likely that China will have then only manned space station in earth orbit.

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China's space station, as envisioned in 2011. Scheduled for
completion in 2020
Source: China Daily

 
E.R. Campbell said:
See somewhere earlier in this thread where someone (Thucydides?) talks about the "string of pearls" program to build bases, primarily naval bases, stretching all the way from China to Suez and, I think, down towards Australia.

Guilty as charged, but I am only borrowing the term from Robert Kaplan, who uses the concept when discussing China in many of his books and articles (especially in the Atlantic Monthly). Perhaps the best single place to explore the concept is in one of his latest works: "Monsoon", but he is also discussing the US version of the concept in books like "Imperial Grunts".

Done by any power, the concept can be roughly paraphrased as creating areas of influence through the building but not owning of infrastructure (like seaports and airports), where relationships and deals bring access when needed rather than building and maintaining the Imperial infrastructure of forward bases. In this regard the Americans have the added flexibility of their fleet of aircraft carriers, which allow them to bring the base to the scene of the action (as it were) should relationships fail and access is denied.
 
Thucydides said:
Guilty as charged, but I am only borrowing the term from Robert Kaplan, who uses the concept when discussing China in many of his books and articles (especially in the Atlantic Monthly). Perhaps the best single place to explore the concept is in one of his latest works: "Monsoon", but he is also discussing the US version of the concept in books like "Imperial Grunts".

Done by any power, the concept can be roughly paraphrased as creating areas of influence through the building but not owning of infrastructure (like seaports and airports), where relationships and deals bring access when needed rather than building and maintaining the Imperial infrastructure of forward bases. In this regard the Americans have the added flexibility of their fleet of aircraft carriers, which allow them to bring the base to the scene of the action (as it were) should relationships fail and access is denied.
It should be noted that while the R.O.C. Navy bases may be lacking, that of the same's Air Force more than makes up for said American extension. Whether by intention and design, that fact of the matter remains that Taiwan is a vital hub for  extension unto China.
 
Kaplan's key example in the press and many of his books is the port in Gwadar, built as a deepwater container port for Pakistan. While it serves a civilian purpose, it is located near the Strait of Hormuz, and by virtue of its ability to dock large container ships can also by default handle most modern warships as well. By maintining friendly relations with Pakistan, the Chinese could gain access to the port facilities in a crisis, using container ships to carry supplies to deployed warships deploying out of Gwadar, for example. This could complicate things for the Indian Navy, the USN and even many of the smaller regional navies.

Many people feel this is actually the entire point of Gwadar, since it is not well connected to the rest of Pakistran's road and rail network and is isolated from Pakistan by being in the unstable region of Baluchistan. As a commercial shipping port it is not well situated in real terms, but as a potential military port...
 
Ever since Gen Matthew Ridgway warned President John F Kennedy that the US should not get involved in (direct) ground combat in Asia* there has been a general consensus among those involved with strategy, most recently by former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating in Aug 12, that a vast variety of reasons "should lead the US to believe that war on the Asian mainland is unwinnable." Now two Canadian foreign policy experts, Derek Burney and Fen Hampson, who regularly provide joint commentary, chime in in this report which is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from iPolitics:

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/11/19/could-the-united-states-and-china-go-to-war/
Could the United States and China go to war?
 
By Derek Burney and Fen Hampson

Nov 19, 2012

China selects its new leader much like the College of Cardinals chooses a new pope, albeit without white smoke (or mirrors). The Americans follow a different technique in choosing a president. The consequences of both processes this year, and the degree to which those selected are able to come to terms with one another, will be the most important determinant of global stability for the next four years.

The wraps were finally taken off China’s new leadership last week. China’s new leader, General Secretary Xi Jinping, is a “princeling,” the son of a prominent member of China’s old revolutionary guard. Though he is considered to be a pragmatist, the six other new members of the downsized Politburo Standing Committee are generally seen as conservative and non-reformers.

These are unsettling times for China’ new leaders. There is mounting social unrest against a regime that is widely seen to be corrupt, privileged and out of touch, even by its own admission. China has gone out of its way to bully its neighbors, notably Japan, Vietnam, and the Philippines, over its territorial claims in the South and East China Seas, where many say it has overplayed its hand.

China’s new leadership also has to come to grips with the fact that no matter what it does, it will not be able to replicate the astronomical, double-digit growth rates China enjoyed over the past decade. Markets in Europe and the U.S. are neither big enough nor growing fast enough to fuel the Chinese juggernaut.

A bigger question is whether China and the U.S. can live at peace with each other until China’s own internal political transformation is complete. U.S. mismanagement of domestic affairs, which has tarnished its lustre as a world leader, is feeding a mood of global uncertainty. China has no desire to replace the U.S. (yet), but it should not be blamed recklessly for indulgence by the U.S. Corruption, cronyism and the lack of political freedom will put more pressure on China in time than sermons from without.

Here are five reasons why there will be war between the U.S. and China — and five reasons why there won’t.

The first is the historical curse of great power transitions. Since the times of ancient Greece, great power transitions in world politics have had deeply unsettling consequences. As Thucydides wrote about the origins of the Peloponnesian wars, it was the rise in the power of Athens and the fear that created in Sparta that led to war. Today, in an ironic twist, the United States is cast in the role of Sparta and China as Athens in what is the fastest rise of a new economic power in history.

The American strategic “pivot” toward Asia reflects some of the same fears about China’s rise that Sparta felt about Athens. Athens bullied its smaller Aegean Sea neighbors; China is doing the same in its own maritime neighborhood.

A second reason is public opinion. The overwhelming majority of Americans (60 per cent) see the rise of China as competition for the United States and they don’t like it. Never mind that China is underwriting much of the U.S. fiscal deficit (including the U.S. defence budget) and debt. America’s elites, who really ought to know better, feel that competition even more acutely.

The third reason is U.S. leadership and its own economic management. The prospect of a tit-for-tat trade war may be more likely and more ominous — especially if the U.S. drifts aimlessly down a sharp fiscal slope, even if it doesn’t immediately fall off “the cliff.”

Fourth, the United States is working actively to encircle if not contain China by reinvigorating its alliances in the region — notably with Japan and Australia, but also with other Southeast Asian nations, including former adversaries like Myanmar and Vietnam. The much-touted Trans-Pacific Partnership is also part of this containment strategy.

Fifth, China in turn has taken to blaming America for inflaming regional tensions and creating problems that are largely of its own making. Its claims in the South China Sea are legally dubious and its actions could draw in the U.S. in defense of its allies, like the Philippines.

On the other side of the ledger, here are five reasons why there won’t be war.

The first is that China and the U.S. are two of the most highly economically interdependent economies in the world.

China is heavily invested in the U.S. economy and U.S. Treasury Bills. The U.S., in turn, is heavily invested in China. Any kind of major disruption in relations or escalation of tensions would cost both countries dearly. Unlike the U.S. and Russia during the Cold War, or even the relationship between Germany and Britain prior to the First World War, China and the United States are joined at the hip by mutual trade and investment. They may be strategic rivals, but any kind of surgical separation would almost certainly kill off both of these Siamese twins.

Second, China is militarily in no position to challenge the U.S. Its military power and projection capabilities pale in comparison to that of the U.S., notwithstanding recent increases in Chinese defense spending and China’s acquisition of a blue-water navy. Nor is it at all clear that China wants to go head-to-head with the U.S. by challenging its global military supremacy.

Third, most countries of the Asia Pacific, including ASEAN, won’t join the States in a U.S.-led anti-China coalition. Incidentally, this is one of the reasons why some countries are ambivalent about the security thrust of the TPP and go out of their way to pitch it as a trade deal.

Fourth, Americans have no stomach for opening up another military front. Beset by vast domestic challenges and still recovering from their bloody and inconclusive experiences in Iraq and Afghanistan, Americans in general will be disinclined to look for fresh conflicts. The Chinese have their own domestic worries to distract them; if hostilities open, expect to see them limited to trade disputes, or to bloodless (and publicly deniable) strikes in cyberspace.

The fifth is recent history. The record of Sino-American relations since the Kissinger-Nixon opening in the early 1970s has largely been one of cooperation. China and America cooperated on the withdrawal of Vietnamese troops from Cambodia in the Paris Peace Accords of 1992. America was a strong supporter of China’s entry into the World Trade Organization. American companies have invested hugely in China and now Chinese companies are trying to do the same in the U.S. (and Canada).

Although China and the U.S. have their differences on how to deal with the consequences of the Arab Spring, especially in Syria, they have shared interests in promoting stability in the Middle East and securing safe passage for the 20 per cent of the world’s oil supplies that pass through the straits of the Persian Gulf, much of it to China.

The U.S. and China simply have too much at stake to replay the war between Athens and Sparta. The rest of us also must ensure that history does not repeat itself. Canada, Australia, the U.S. and others, for example, might begin by adopting a common, not competitive, approach to investments by Chinese SOEs in their respective resource bases and to the shared threat from cyberspace, thereby making the “Asian pivot” more than a trendy pirouette.

© 2012 iPolitics Inc.


We should note that one of the reasons often cited for US failures in China is that political and local, tactical intelligence are so often wrong because Asians and Americans are so culturally different that they cannot understand one another. That's why a minor misunderstanding ~ something which is quite normal in international affairs amongst similar countries and is almost the norm between America and China ~ can, quickly, turn into a significant incident, a crisis, which could lead to war.

There is a war faction in both countries - politicians, industrialists, general and admirals and academics - who need to have an enemy, a "near peer" enemy, to justify e.g. continued growth in military expenditures.

In my opinion neither America nor China has anything to gain by a war; America cannot, in any way that I can imagine, including massive nuclear attacks, win a war against China because any war must be won in China, but China, for its part, cannot hope to defeat America except by making China itself a battleground and destroying all that the Chinese people have made for themselves ~ it is the very definition of a Pyrrhic victory.

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* Jeffrey Record, The Wrong War, Why we lost in Vietnam, Naval Institute Press
 
I'm not sure what this report, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from Reuters, means; maybe, as the article suggests, the new, leaner and meaner Standing Committee does want to defang the internal security service but, also maybe, the leadership is simply less worried about internal threats from the vast majority of Han Chinese and a reduced threat (mainly from the Western provinces/regions) simply allows for one less senior Politburo member:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/19/china-politics-reshuffle-idUSL4N08Z26R20121119

China downgrades powerful domestic security chief position

BEIJING | Mon Nov 19, 2012

Nov 19 (Reuters) - China confirmed on Monday that it had downgraded the position of domestic security chief as part of a move to a new and smaller top elite, an expected move that reflects fears the position had become too powerful.

The official Xinhua news agency said in a brief announcement that Zhou Yongkang's position as head of the Political and Legal Affairs Committee, a sprawling body that oversees law-and-order policy, had been taken over by Public Security Minister Meng Jianzhu.

The hulking, grim-faced 69-year-old Zhou had to retire along with most members of the Politburo Standing Committee, the inner council at the apex of power, at this month's 18th Party Congress, due to his age. He turns 70 in December.

Meng, however, is only a member of the new Politburo, the 25-member body which reports to the down-sized Standing Committee, putting him on a tighter leash and returning to a pattern the party kept to for much of the 1980s.

Reducing the party's Standing Committee from nine to seven members came as part of a once-in-a-decade leadership change announced last week, which saw Vice President Xi Jinping raised to head of the ruling Communist Party.

Reuters reported in August that Zhou's position was likely to be downgraded and Zhou replaced by Meng.

Zhou had been on the Standing Committee since 2007 while also heading the central Political and Legal Affairs Committee.

That double status allowed Zhou to dominate a domestic security budget of $110 billion a year, exceeding the defence budget.

Zhou was implicated in rumours that he hesitated in moving against the politician Bo Xilai, a former candidate for top office who fell in a divisive scandal after his wife was accused of murdering a British businessman.

Security forces also suffered a humiliating failure earlier in the year when they allowed blind rights advocate Chen Guangcheng to escape from 19 months of house arrest and flee to the U.S. embassy in Beijing.

Since the 1990s, China's efforts to stifle crime, unrest and dissent have allowed the domestic security apparatus -- including police, armed militia and state security officers -- to accumulate power.

In another announcement, Xinhua said that Zhao Leji had replaced Li Yuanchao as head of the party's organisation department that oversees the appointment of senior party, government, military and state-owned enterprise officials.

Zhao had been party boss of the northern province of Shaanxi and is close to president-in-waiting Xi.

There was no announcement on where Li, a reformer who has courted foreign investment and studied in the United States, may go. He missed out on a spot on the Standing Committee despite being tipped to enter it.

Standing Committee positions will officially be released in March at the annual meeting of parliament, though there is no doubt Xi will become president and Li Keqiang will take over as premier from Wen Jiabao.

Over the next few days and weeks state media should announce the positions of the other members of the Politburo.


The Party's organizational department is very powerful and Zhao Leji will have to contend with ways to renew the Party - which has lost some of its lustre amongst the educated elite in recent years.
 
I have, in the past, commented upon the National Higher Education Entrance Examination (te Gaokao), the long, tough and generally fair process by which Chinese youngsters are sorted for later life. The process is dreaded but many Chinese, at least the ones with whom I have discussed it, support the aims and processes. There is, also consideration of following Singapore's lead and making entrance to secondary school subject to competitive examination. In Singapore it is called the Primary School Leaving Examination (2012 results just released today) which are also notorious for the stress and rigour.

That rationale for both the Gaokao and the PSLE is that:

1. People are a nation's most vital "natural resources" and the one of the few things that state can offer to help people make themselves "better" is education; but

2. Education is a finite resource and it must not be "wasted" on those who cannot use it to better themselves; and

3. Children, even as young as about age 12, are not too young to learn that you must work and even suffer to achieve your goals and you must compete with others.

Despite regular calls to reform (make easier) or abolish both systems, I have seen no signs that either will change - except, perhaps, to be even more rigorous. But can you imagine "failing" 2.4% of 6th graders in Canada?

Something to think about when you ponder why and how we are different from the Chinese.
 
This, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from the South China Morning Post is worrisome:

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1088629/fury-hong-kong-beijing-officials-claim-foreign-interference
Fury in Hong Kong at Beijing official's claim of 'foreign interference'
Beijing official's allegation that 'external powers' help to co-ordinate campaigns for opposition parties in city called 'hollower than hollow'

Friday, 23 November, 2012

Joshua But

A top mainland official in charge of Hong Kong affairs has lashed out at interference by "external powers" in Hong Kong elections, alleging for the first time that the unspecified powers were helping co-ordinate campaigns for opposition parties.

Zhang Xiaoming, a deputy director of the State Council's Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office, said "necessary measures" were needed to combat such interference and called for Hong Kong to pass the national security law required by Article 23 of the Basic Law.

His words, in an article published yesterday in the pro-Beijing newspaper Wen Wei Po, sparked alarm among pan-democrats, who said it could indicate a harder line by Beijing towards dissent in the city.

Zhang wrote that the "external powers" "even get deeply involved in local elections and help co-ordinating campaigns for opposition parties. We have to take necessary measures to prevent external interference."

Civic Party leader Alan Leong Kah-kit, describing the allegation as "hollower than hollow", said: "It is the most irresponsible way to make an allegation, because there is no evidence. We only have evidence of how the [central government] liaison office meddles with the elections."

Political commentator Johnny Lau Yui-siu said "external interference" had long referred to Britain and the US. But the definition had expanded in recent years to include Taiwan and Chinese dissidents in exile.

The 6,000-word article, "Enrich the implementation of One Country Two Systems" was a chapter in a study guide to the report of the 18th party congress in Beijing last week.

In it, Zhang said Hong Kong should complete the Article 23 legislation "in due course".

He added that any referendum campaigns and the Hong Kong City-State Autonomy Movement were in breach of the "one country" part of "one country, two systems".

He also insisted that the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress had legitimate power to interpret the Basic Law, a view echoed by the former Secretary for Justice Elsie Leung Oi-sie. The committee should also take up its role to monitor Hong Kong's legislation, Zhang said.

Leong said the article shed light on the central government's changing policy in Hong Kong. "What Zhang said is not only unconstitutional but also immoral," she said. "If it had been said before 1997, I would bet Hong Kong's transition would not have been as smooth as it was."

Another pan-democrat, Lee Cheuk-yan, said he feared the central government had been ill-advised on Hong Kong affairs. "A hardline approach can now be expected," Lee said.

The Democratic Party's acting chairwoman, Emily Lau Wai-hing, said Zhang was twisting the facts. "Hong Kong people are furious at Beijing's interference in the city's internal affairs," she said.

Beijing-loyalist lawmaker Wong Kwok-kin said some recent developments in Hong Kong, such as protesters raising the colonial Hong Kong flag, might have struck a nerve in Beijing on the issue of sovereignty.

"Zhang's message could be a warning to some Hong Kong people," he said. "Overseas influences have long existed in the city. But the article shows Beijing is not going to tolerate any more."

Separately, former chief secretary Anson Chan Fang On-sang said Hong Kong was enduring the worst atmosphere since the handover. She said Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying had failed to maintain meritocracy in his appointments of senior officials and top advisers.

"I could only shake my head at what [Central Policy Unit head] Shiu Sin-por said," she said. "He seems to think he is a loyal servant of the Chief Executive and to forget he is employed as a civil servant."

The recruitment of Sophia Kao Ching-chi by the unit to co-ordinate appointments to government advisory and statutory bodies was also a bad move, she said. "I wonder whether the government wants to hear merely one voice, which is to support the administration," she said.


Hong Kong's political and socio-economic freedom is essential to the project to reunite Taiwan with China peacefully. This sort of heavy handed intrusion into Hong Kong's affairs by second rank Beijng officials will bring nothing but embarrassment to Xi Jinping's new administration. Xi and HK Chief Leung Chun-ying should both listen to Anson Chan.
 
[quote author=E.R. Campbell]Hong Kong's political and socio-economic freedom is essential to the project to reunite Taiwan with China peacefully. [/quote]
I think I understand your premise, but  I also think "essential" is rather overstating the case.
While I agree that any interference in Hong Kong might have ramifications for Taiwan in the future, it is also of import that in the the case of Taiwan, China's stick (missile sites) is more than equally balanced by economic factors. To say nothing of Japan and the U.S Seventh Fleet.
Hong Kong and Taiwan with regards to China are both fruit, but one is an apple and the other is an orange.
 
Ignatius J. Reilly said:
I think I understand your premise, but  I also think "essential" is rather overstating the case.
While I agree that any interference in Hong Kong might have ramifications for Taiwan in the future, it is also of import that in the the case of Taiwan, China's stick (missile sites) is more than equally balanced by economic factors. To say nothing of Japan and the U.S Seventh Fleet.
Hong Kong and Taiwan with regards to China are both fruit, but one is an apple and the other is an orange.


Fair enough, but I think Beijing is trying - at least has tried for a decade, we'll see what Xi wants to do - to de-emphasize the "stick" and emphasize the socio-economic "carrots". The biggest carrot is Hong Kong's example ~ prosperous, politically and economically "independent," and, broadly, "free" from Beijing's rule.

I don't think Beijing can buy Taiwan and I think that, for the time being, Beijing will not risk trying to seize it by force ~ that leaves "voluntary" reunification which can happen only if Taiwan believes that Beijing can be trusted to respect "one country, n systems."
 
E.R. Campbell said:
Fair enough, but I think Beijing is trying - at least has tried for a decade, we'll see what Xi wants to do - to de-emphasize the "stick" and emphasize the socio-economic "carrots". The biggest carrot is Hong Kong's example ~ prosperous, politically and economically "independent," and, broadly, "free" from Beijing's rule.
While I agree about the economic carrot, I would argue that said carrot has been in place for quite some time, given the amount of trade and factory trade-offs between Taiwan and China.
I'm just not sure that any political carrot in terms of Hong Kong will really send up any short term shivers up Taiwan's spine.

I don't think Beijing can buy Taiwan and I think that, for the time being, Beijing will not risk trying to seize it by force ~ that leaves "voluntary" reunification which can happen only if Taiwan believes that Beijing can be trusted to respect "one country, n systems."
I agree that, for the time being, Beijing will not seize Taiwan by force. It would be far too costly for them, and Taipei. Beijing will hold that as a stick to be wielded when the moment is ripe, if it ever will be. But still it is understood that they will hold such a stick at the ready.
As for voluntary, within quote marks or without, I personally think that the vast majority of Taiwanese folks favour the status quo, and would only consider unification with China in the unlikely event of some outside interference, such as an invasion by Saudi Arabia.

I have lived in Taiwan (married 2 kids, pretty much entrenched) for  much  of the last 15 years, give or take a year or two here and there or  so on assignment. Local folks are willing to accept a new master, as long as it does not disrupt the status quo. Which, might take some doing, given the massive advances Taiwan has done on basic social structure, compared to that of China. This is the crux of the biscuit.

My point is that that the socio-economic in the minds of the Taiwanese will outweigh the political, and Beijing knows this.
Quite apart from the fact of Hong Kong, which was a political matter from day one of the takeover from the lease unto Britain, and the economic factors sheer gravy after that fact.

But I think you are right stating prior that Xi is quite pragmatic. But being said he can always run a few horses at one time, right?
Despite his previous Taiwan connections in the business realm, I think he will do as those before, bulk up missile strength, and offer economic advantage.

Those of us in the short term can only keep on, keeping on.
 
tomahawk6 said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/26/world/asia/china-shows-off-an-aircraft-carrier-but-experts-are-skeptical.html?_r=0

China Launches Carrier, but Experts Doubt Its Worth
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: September 25, 2012

BEIJING — In a ceremony attended by the country’s top leaders, China put its first aircraft carrier into service on Tuesday, a move intended to signal its growing military might as tensions escalate between Beijing and its neighbors over islands in nearby seas.

Officials said the carrier, a discarded vessel bought from Ukraine in 1998 and refurbished by China, would protect national sovereignty, an issue that has become a touchstone of the government’s dispute with Japan over ownership of islands in the East China Sea.

But despite the triumphant tone of the launching, which was watched by President Hu Jintao and Prime Minister Wen Jiabao, and despite rousing assessments by Chinese military experts about the importance of the carrier, the vessel will be used only for training and testing for the foreseeable future.

The mark “16” on the carrier’s side indicates that it is limited to training, Chinese and other military experts said. China does not have planes capable of landing on the carrier and so far training for such landings has been carried out on land, they said.

Even so, the public appearance of the carrier at the northeastern port of Dalian was used as an occasion to stir patriotic feelings, which have run at fever pitch in the last 10 days over the dispute between China and Japan over the East China Sea islands, called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.

The carrier will “raise the overall operational strength of the Chinese Navy” and help China “to effectively protect national sovereignty, security and development interests,” the Ministry of Defense said.

The Communist Party congress that will begin the country’s once-in-a-decade leadership transition is expected to be held next month, and the public unveiling of the carrier appeared to be part of an effort to forge national unity ahead of the event.

For international purposes, the public unveiling of the carrier seemed intended to signal to smaller nations in the South China Sea, including the Philippines, an American ally, that China has an increasing number of impressive assets to deploy.

American military planners have played down the significance of the commissioning of the carrier. Some Navy officials have even said they would encourage China to move ahead with building its own aircraft carrier and the ships to accompany it, because it would be a waste of money.

Other military experts outside China have agreed with that assessment.

“The fact is the aircraft carrier is useless for the Chinese Navy,” You Ji, a visiting senior research fellow at the National University of Singapore, said in an interview. “If it is used against America, it has no survivability. If it is used against China’s neighbors, it’s a sign of bullying.”

Vietnam, a neighbor with whom China has fought wars, operates land-based Russian Su-30 aircraft that could pose a threat to the aircraft carrier, Mr. You said. “In the South China Sea, if the carrier is damaged by the Vietnamese, it’s a huge loss of face,” he said. “It’s not worth it.”

Up to now, Chinese pilots have been limited to practicing simulated carrier landings on concrete strips on land in Chinese J-8 aircraft based on Soviet-made MIG-23s produced about 25 years ago, Mr. You said. The pilots could not undertake the difficult maneuver of landing on a moving carrier because China does not yet have suitable aircraft, Mr. You said.

The question of whether China will move ahead and build its own carrier depends in large part, he said, on whether China can develop aircraft to land on one. “It’s a long, long process for constructing such aircraft,” he said.

In contrast to some of the skepticism expressed by military experts outside China, Li Jie, a researcher at the Chinese Naval Research Institute, said in an interview in the state-run People’s Daily that the carrier would change the Chinese Navy’s traditional mind-set and bring qualitative changes to its operational style and structure, he said.

Although the Chinese military does not publish a breakdown of its military spending, foreign military experts say the navy is less well financed than the army and air force.


It looks like flight training has begun according to this article which is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisions of the Copyright Act from Xinhua:

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2012-11/25/c_123998057.htm
China conducts flight landing on aircraft carrier

English.news.cn

2012-11-25

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This undated photo shows staff members checking a carrier-borne J-15 fighter jet on China's first aircraft
carrier, the Liaoning. China has successfully conducted flight landing on its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning.
After its delivery to the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy on Sept. 25, the aircraft carrier has undergone
a series of sailing and technological tests, including the flight of the carrier-borne J-15. Capabilities of the
carrier platform and the J-15 have been tested, meeting all requirements and achieving good compatibility,
the PLA Navy said. Designed by and made in China, the J-15 is able to carry multi-type anti-ship, air-to-air
and air-to-ground missiles, as well as precision-guided bombs. The J-15 has comprehensive capabilities
comparable to those of the Russian Su-33 jet and the U.S. F-18, military experts estimated.
(Xinhua/Zha Chunming)


LIAONING AIRCRAFT CARRIER, Nov. 25 (Xinhua) -- China has successfully conducted flight landing on its first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, naval sources said.

A new J-15 fighter jet was used as part of the landing exercise.

After its delivery to the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy on Sept. 25, the aircraft carrier has undergone a series of sailing and technological tests, including the flight of the carrier-borne J-15.

Capabilities of the carrier platform and the J-15 have been tested, meeting all requirements and achieving good compatibility, the PLA Navy said.

Since the carrier entered service, the crew have completed more than 100 training and test programs.

The successful flight landing also marked the debut of the J-15 as China's first generation multi-purpose carrier-borne fighter jet, the PLA Navy said.

Designed by and made in China, the J-15 is able to carry multi-type anti-ship, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, as well as precision-guided bombs.

The J-15 has comprehensive capabilities comparable to those of the Russian Su-33 jet and the U.S. F-18, military experts estimated.
 
Here, reproduced under the Fair Dealing provisons of the Copyright Act from the Financial Times is an interesting bit of forecasting (speculating, if you like) by Gavyn Davies:

http://blogs.ft.com/gavyndavies/2012/11/25/the-decade-of-xi-jinping/#axzz2DGWjkVFb
The decade of Xi Jinping

November 25, 2012

Gavyn Davies

The transfer of power in China from the outgoing regime led by Hu Jintao to the incoming leadership of Xi Jiping has occurred without a hitch. This is a mark of increased political maturity in China.
In fact, the hand-over has been described by Citigroup economists as the first complete and orderly transition of power in the 91 year history of the Chinese Communist Party.

During President Hu’s decade, China’s real GDP per capita rose at 9.9 per cent per annum. China accounted for 24 per cent of the entire growth in the global economy, and Chinese annual consumption of many basic commodities now stands at around half of the world total. Perhaps the most important question in the world economy today is whether China’s economic miracle can continue in the decade of Xi Jinping. The IMF forecasts shown in the graph above suggest that the miracle will persist, but many western economists disagree.

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China’s re-emergence as a global economic powerhouse is by now fairly well understood. Following the Deng Xiaoping reforms after 1978, and the opening of the economy to domestic and international markets, China has engaged in a process of economic catch-up similar to that which Japan and Korea achieved in earlier decades.

The question for the next decade is whether this growth process will prove to be self-limiting. The experience of other Asian economies suggests that, one day, this will indeed happen. The supply of under-employed labour in rural areas will be drained, the growth of manufacturing will peak, and the ability to import superior technology from other economies will run out of rope. A slowdown in growth is therefore inevitable. The only questions are when, and by how much?

The recent pattern of growth in the economy has caused some economists to become very pessimistic about the answers to these questions. Although the Hu administration was able to maintain the growth rate of real GDP, it did so after 2008 only by boosting the ratio of fixed investment in the economy to compensate for the declining share of net trade and the sluggish performance of household consumption. Fixed investment is now around 50 per cent of GDP, with consumption standing at only 35 per cent.

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These are very unusual figures by any international standards, markedly exceeding the investment shares in countries like Japan and Korea during their economic miracles. There are certainly reasons for concern. In a recent paper for Lombard Street Research, Charles Dumas points out that the additional output achieved per unit of extra investment has been falling in recent years, suggesting that returns on capital are falling. He thinks that there has been substantial over-investment and estimates that the desirable share of fixed investment in GDP is only around 33-34 per cent.

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If this downward adjustment in fixed investment happened too rapidly, it would certainly cause a deep recession. It would also cause recessions in some western economies which have become heavily dependent on exporting capital goods to China. As the accompanying graph from a recent IMF study shows, a drop of 2.5 per cent in the level of fixed investment in China would reduce global GDP growth by around 0.2 per cent, with German GDP being hit by 0.6 per cent. If Charles Dumas is right about the scale of the adjustment needed, the eventual impact on global GDP would be much larger than the graph shows.

Other economists, however, point out that China’s capital stock still remains extremely low relative to developed economies like the US (eg in terms of the housing stock per family, etc), and argue that it does not matter very much if this investment is brought forward relative to the growth of consumption. These economists argue that this sort of “pre-investment” will not create any problems, especially if funded by the government sector rather than by the creation of excessive private leverage and debt. The houses, railways and roads will still be there, and will be fully utilised in future years.

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What can we learn from the experience of other economies at similar stages in their growth process? The most informative research paper which I have been able to find on this question was written in 2011 by Barry Eichengreen and colleagues. This paper identifies all of the growth slowdowns which have occurred since 1957 in economies which have attained a middling level of GDP per capita (over $10,000 per annum in 2005 prices according to the Penn World tables).

The key result of this study is that major growth slowdowns are triggered, on average, when per capita GDP reaches $16,700 per annum, or on an alternative measure when it reaches 58 per cent of the per capita GDP of the lead economy (ie the US). When these levels of income are reached by a developing economy, it tends to experience a growth slowdown of at least 3.5 percentage points. Both Japan (in 1970 and 1992) and Korea (in 1997) suffered growth slowdowns larger than this when their income levels exceeded the critical levels.

China has not yet reached either of the key levels identified by Eichengreen. On my estimates, the level of per capita GDP will exceed $16,700 only in 2016, and the ratio of Chinese to US GDP will not approach the 58 per cent level before the 2020s.

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Based on this analysis, the development process in China might still have a long way to go before a major slowdown becomes inevitable. This is presumably one key reason why the IMF’s medium term forecasts for China still show real GDP rising at a healthy rate of about 8.5 per cent per annum up to 2017.However, the Eichengreen study does add some specific warnings about the future for China. Apart from levels of GDP per capita, the study concludes that several other variables which impact the probability of a major growth slowdown are flashing warning signals in China, including the low share of consumption in GDP, the ageing of the population and the undervalued real exchange rate. Because of this, Eichengreen’s estimates show that, in the absence of corrective policy action, the probability of a major Chinese slowdown at some point in the next few years is already running at over 70 per cent.

The test for the decade of Xi Jinping is whether policy can head off all or some of the impending slowdown. The good news is that the incoming administration is extremely well aware of the challenge of excess investment, and will act to mitigate its worst effects. China has faced greater economic challenges in the past three decades, and has succeeded in overcoming them. It can do so again.


If Gavyn Davies is correct, and he is a pretty successful prognosticator, then the wort fears of some and fondest hopes of others, that China will collapse and a new revolution will break out, are unlikely to materialize.
 
More photos of the flight operations in this story. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2238222/China-lands-fighter-jet-aircraft-carrier-takes-leap-Asian-naval-power.html
 
Official China, for all that it is enamoured with soft power, has a cultural tin ear: the satirical magazine The Onion named Kim Jong-Un its "sexiest man alive."* Good for a smirk, right? Not in Beijing, the official People's Daily repeated the story ... seriously.  ::)

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