Continental Defence Corvette

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As discussed at the recent SEAPOWER 2025 these are envisioned to bring the fight to the ice edge in the arctic (PC6 hull form). You can see that these are not likely to be Corvettes, but frigates (FFG's by the looks of things) in the 2500-4000 ton range. Their range is significant so they can do the long endurance patrols including transit from E to W through the NWP.

Their defensive suite is supposed to be roughly equivalent to the CPF's (at a minimum).

 

[Czech_pivo]

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Thanks for posting.
Timelines look quick, like tout suite quick.
Any guesses who and where it will be built? One facility or two?

 

[Underway]

Thanks for posting.
Timelines look quick, like tout suite quick.
Any guesses who and where it will be built? One facility or two?

Way to early to tell. They still don't know a lot. However as the discussion keeps coming up I figured I'd start a post to split it a bit.

The continental defensive picture is starting to be much more clear.

River class form the backbone of the constellation, providing C4 and AAW nodes. CDC will be able to go out to the ice edge and bring the fight there if necessary. Subs provide similar in an underwater capacity. AOPS will do a lot of the shovel work for the RCN, launching and recovering UUV's and other sensors, survey patrols and sensor sweeps. JSS will supply the constellation to keep them on station as necessary.

A Canadian task group going on deployment will likely consist of only River Class and JSS (perhaps a sub working in the same area but not attached to the TG directly). It doesn't feel like a CDC will have the crewing necessary for a long deployment.

No discussion on optionally crewed at this point which I find interesting. Maybe the tech isn't there yet.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Way to early to tell. They still don't know a lot. However as the discussion keeps coming up I figured I'd start a post to split it a bit.

The continental defensive picture is starting to be much more clear.

River class form the backbone of the constellation, providing C4 and AAW nodes. CDC will be able to go out to the ice edge and bring the fight there if necessary. Subs provide similar in an underwater capacity. AOPS will do a lot of the shovel work for the RCN, launching and recovering UUV's and other sensors, survey patrols and sensor sweeps. JSS will supply the constellation to keep them on station as necessary.

A Canadian task group going on deployment will likely consist of only River Class and JSS (perhaps a sub working in the same area but not attached to the TG directly). It doesn't feel like a CDC will have the crewing necessary for a long deployment.

No discussion on optionally crewed at this point which I find interesting. Maybe the tech isn't there yet.

With the AOPS, if they will be doing that sort of UUV and work, will there not be the need for something like a CIW going forward?

 

[OldSolduer]

No naval expert here but this looks well thought out.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

No naval expert here but this looks well thought out.

It would make anyone closing our shores think twice.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Additional here: I would want to see the "Orca" replacements used for Naval Reserve Units be a different version of the ones used for training in support of Venture. They should forego the large bridge with a double navigation facility for a smaller one with a single set of navigation gear, the main cafeteria doubling as a classroom should be replaced by two messes: one for junior personnel and one for senior personnel (Officers and C&PO's), and each of the 6 pax cabins should be turned into two 2 pax cabins.

Naval reservists should still be trained and qualify on the coasts, with the NRU's "Orcas's" being used to sail in consolidation of this training to provide the reservists with experience (i.e. time doing the job they trained for).

 

[DBNSG]

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As discussed at the recent SEAPOWER 2025 these are envisioned to bring the fight to the ice edge in the arctic (PC6 hull form). You can see that these are not likely to be Corvettes, but frigates (FFG's by the looks of things) in the 2500-4000 ton range. Their range is significant so they can do the long endurance patrols including transit from E to W through the NWP.

Their defensive suite is supposed to be roughly equivalent to the CPF's (at a minimum).

I can envision a class of 15 Total hulls with 9 in this full military configuration and 6 for the Coast Guard. Fitted for but not with. That would at least give Coast Guard Officers familiarity with a Continental security mission and should things really bonk extra hulls to boost Convoy numbers.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

My guess is that we see CSC scalled back in number or the timeline "stretched out" and we start cranking these out. The 3x AEGIS capable CSC get built and then we start pumping out these puppies with CSC slowly trickling in.

 

[OldSolduer]

It would make anyone closing our shores think twice.

Really? I have no idea how frigates etc are employed or armed.

 

[Kirkhill]

It would make anyone closing our shores think twice.

What shore based support might be offered to supply depth?

 

[Maxman1]

Finland's new corvette/light frigate seems to fit the bill, other than being 13m longer than specified.

Pohjanmaa-class corvette - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[daftandbarmy]

What shore based support might be offered to supply depth?

We've got some heritage defenses - full of character

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Finland's new corvette/light frigate seems to fit the bill, other than being 13m longer than specified.

Pohjanmaa-class corvette - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and double the tonnage, making them basically Halifax frigates

 

[Czech_pivo]

and double the tonnage, making them basically Halifax frigates

The range proposed in our CDC is 7,000+nm - double what’s listed on the specs for the Finns.