I’ve yet to see anything that comes close to the years of Quebec separation being a real possibility. I see more political divides than social ones but even then we aren’t anywhere near where the US is right now. I see a break up in the US before I see one here along those lines.Even without invasion I think this is a very real possibility. Just viewing the social divides widen and as they become more entrenched, and with know uniting politician in view, I truly worry for our future.
I’ve yet to see anything that comes close to the years of Quebec separation being a real possibility. I see more political divides than social ones but even then we aren’t anywhere near where the US is right now. I see a break up in the US before I see one here along those lines.
That being said we shouldn’t take anything for granted.
If I were Canada I would scatter the CAF into small insurgent groups, train locals and conduct small ops across the borders where we look and sound like them.
The US could easily control major Urban centres but maybe not the countryside so much. I would expect Canada to fracture into independent republics in reaction to it.
Fantasy though.
Did that disdain exist during the Harper years or during the Trudeau years?I think you're severely underestimating the disdain that's a good portion of the country has for central Canada right now.
Especially in the west. But it exists ever here in the Maritimes.
I hope I'm wrong, but I have my doubts.
You're overestimating it. It's a family. I can pick on my brother and criticize all his decisions/politics, but when someone else does it, I lose all sense of reason and proportional response. You don't **** with the family.I think you're severely underestimating the disdain that's a good portion of the country has for central Canada right now.
Especially in the west. But it exists ever here in the Maritimes.
I hope I'm wrong, but I have my doubts.
Did that disdain exist during the Harper years or during the Trudeau years?
Have we reached a point where western and east coast provinces are electing separatist governments and having referendums?
You're overestimating it. It's a family. I can pick on my brother and criticize all his decisions/politics, but when someone else does it, I lose all sense of reason and proportional response. You don't **** with the family.
I'm with you, but we all know how far some family feuds can go, too #HatfieldsMcCoys... It's a family. I can pick on my brother and criticize all his decisions/politics, but when someone else does it, I lose all sense of reason and proportional response. You don't **** with the family.
Some of JT's work surely fuels the fire, but there is more of a "we're not going to take it anymore" vibe out there, from one side more than another, but not zero on the other side, either.... To me it's not a reaction to JT and Liberal governments so much as a pivot by some towards populism and an acceptance of that life style. Right word ? ...
I'm with you, but we all know how far some family feuds can go, too #HatfieldsMcCoys
Some of JT's work surely fuels the fire, but there is more of a "we're not going to take it anymore" vibe out there, from one side more than another, but not zero on the other side, either.
The reason I ask is how much of the disdain is due to cults of personality. Will the disdain exist once Trudeau is gone or will it persist. Will the disdain end when the ends it’s losing streak?With the way the right is fracturing and the growth of the extreme I'm not sure we can make a fair comparison to that time. Harper was very much a center-right PM.
I see big divisions and I don't see them as reaction to one government over another. It's regional.
To me it's not a reaction to JT and Liberal governments so much as a pivot by some towards populism and an acceptance of that life style. Right word ?
Its dangerous to speak in definitives. The future is a time you don't know or understand.
Its not the Democrats that you need to worry about, its all the NDP's/Greens uniting with like-minded souls in Washington/Oregon/California...We don't need anymore Democrats thank you.
The reason I ask is how much of the disdain is due to cults of personality. Will the disdain exist once Trudeau is gone or will it persist. Will the disdain end when the ends it’s losing streak?
My point isn’t that there is not discontent. But I have yet to see it at the same level as when Quebec was a hair from leaving confederation.
I should have been clearer - some of the left I deal with say "we're done with populism." Not as high a volume, to be sure, but again, +0.I def feel the "done with Canada" sentiment coming from the right in the vast majority of the time.
I haven't heard that from the left. Although I sit to be corrected.
Fantasy? More like heresy
We would just set up light infantry battalions in defensive positions across open fields (sans anti-armor) and when the US military stops dead against our stalwart bulwark we would drive LAVs up to their positions, dismount 50 meters away, and take them prisoner.
Do you mean like the fracture into the PQ, Reform, out of the PC's? The right "fracturing" this time isn't along geographic lines it's along political-social lines (if it fractures at all, I think of more its shedding voters/members depending on which way they swing).With the way the right is fracturing and the growth of the extreme I'm not sure we can make a fair comparison to that time. Harper was very much a center-right PM.
I see big divisions and I don't see them as reaction to one government over another. It's regional.
To me it's not a reaction to JT and Liberal governments so much as a pivot by some towards populism and an acceptance of that life style. Right word ?
Its dangerous to speak in definitives. The future is a time you don't know or understand.
Do you mean like the fracture into the PQ, Reform, out of the PC's? The right "fracturing" this time isn't along geographic lines it's along political-social lines (if it fractures at all, I think of more its shedding voters/members depending on which way they swing).
The regional issues in Canada are a rounding error compared to what they were in the 90's.