Thank You Moe, very much appreciated for the time and effort you are showing. I'll try to be fairly quick so as to not take too much of your time. I will put the questions in numbered order if you could answer them in that order, that would be great. You
have 7 document pages in total. 3 from the payment officer, 3 are the decision letter, and a payment officer worksheet.
Payment officer documents
1- The first page would be your covering page with subject material describing your benefits/ no benefits? No page number on this.
2- Page 2 is instructions on filling out disability award options/Financial counselling/ changes to your conditions, ect? this page has page 2 on the top.
3.The final page is catagorized as CATAGORIES on the top left corner and the signature of the payment officer follows below?Page 3 is printed on top.
You can now look at the bottom of the first page and most likely will see ...2 in the lower right corner. Flip to page 2 and you will see ...3 and the final page has nothing. This is called what I was taught in law as page citing or page tattling. This means page 1 is tattling that it is part of page 2. page 2 is tattling it is part of page 3 which is the signature page. What is missing is that page 1 with the important information on it isn't tattling that it goes with the signature page. to understand this please look at your application and you will notice all the pages that you filled out are tattling that each page is part of the signature page only. Meaning on your payment officer documents, your first page is not with the signature page. Thus the reason the signature is on its own separate page. If anything is different than I have stated please correct me so I know if we have any differences.
Decision Letter.
1The covering page is not numbered?
2Page 2 is numbered on top and your decision has been manipulated to end on this page not leaving room for a signature.
3Page 3 is a separate page that says For advice on options, you may contact... with the signature of the adjudicator below.
What I would like to know is do the bulleted items on the first 2 page have spaces between them or not. BinRats spacings were removed so his decision ended on a full page and the signature is separate. My uncles has spacings added between all items to make it end on a full page with the signature on a separate page.
If you look at the bottom of your decision letter on each page, I am guessing there is no page tattling that page 1 and 2 are part of the signature page as our 2 documents aren't either. Now, I am not a conspirator, nor a snake oil salesman, as I have been labelled in the post. to confirm my suspicion's, I contacted VAC and asked them to send me a copy of the decision and payment officer documents as I told them that I misplaced mine. I was sent new documents with no signatures. No copies of the signatures exist on file, and correct me if I am wrong as my lawyer agrees that any legal documents signed by any government must have copies of the the signatures on file. Especially when the adjudicator is signing these documents on behalf of the minister of veterans affairs. So I emailed for over 2 1/2 months to get VAC to verify these documents and they wouldn't reply. I got my uncles ATIP files which included a newly signed adjudication which is not a copy of the original document which my lawyer says can't be done as there is only one original document and only a copy of this can be in the files.
What I need to know, was your disability approved or only partially approved or wasn't approved. As Bins wasn't and my uncles weren't we feel that a fair adjudication may have been done by the adjudicators, but someone else has done a new adjudication
and declined the disabilities and took the signature page from the approved adjudication and slipped it in with declined adjudication. This would make sense why the signature pages have been manipulated to be on their own so they could be used with another set of documents. This may be why VAC won't verify their documents, won't produce any copies of the signatures on file, and have no copies in the ATIP files of the original signature of the decision. I am not trying to sell you on this, but I went to my federal MP and asked them to send the documents to VAC for verification and they refused to do this. I wondered why and figure the MP is a PC and so is her colleage the VAC minister with the federal election coming wouldn't look good if there was fraud at VAC. I also asked VAC to send me a letter just to confirm that they sent the decision letter to my uncle and they refused. All the documents found in my uncles ATIP files are all unsigned documents, even the ones from internal pension officers. This is why we were trying to find out about others documents to see if ours were the same or not. We are taking the adjudicator to court as we feel that this is her signature but we don't think this is her adjudication that it was fabricated and sent with her signature page from the adjudication she did. All fair adjudication legislation and the right to procedural fairness have been ignored and this would mean the adjudicator would be liable for this in civil court and why we suspect that this isn't her adjudication that was sent with her signature page. Office workers get huge performance bonuses based on percentage of the money they take from the adjudications. we are waiting for court to see if the adjudicator says this her adjudication, if not we are going to the RCMP to have a fraud investigation done. thanks again, your information makes a big difference and if we are right, it will help many many people. By the way, I don't have a big ego as someone has posted, I was educated as a business administrator where I was specifically trained in legal documentation where we were taught to pick out inconsistencies in all forms of documentation and I am using this knowledge to help others at my own time and expense.
