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Drive by in CFB Gagetown PMQs

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According to friends I know there was a drive by shooting on St John Ave this past week.  :o

A house was shot up but no one was injured, thankfully.

Is there anyone out there who knows more details or a link about this?

Regards
 
There is nothing in the press about this, but I will ask my friends who live there if they have heard anything. It wouldnt suprise me.
 
Hi,

The wife and I were in town that day (Friday IIRC) doing some shopping and yes it happened. It was on Mirimichi just south of the traffic circle. We got routed around the area at about 1130 but by 1300 it was pretty well over.

The mounties had two teenagers in custody, and the rifle. It wasn't a drive-by as such but I'm not sure where they were firing from. The PMQ was occupied by an RCR Corporal who arrived home just towards the end of it. One round went In/through ? the lower window sill in the living room, and another through the glass just about were his head would have been had he been home and sitting in his easy chair. His wife was at work, so no one was injured. They also shot the windows out of a car parked in the driveway next door.

No reason were given on the news broadcasts, but they were off school that day, so I guess it was just something to do. Whichever one of the parents owned the weapon should at the very least lose weapons priviledges for the rest of his/her life   :rage:   As far as the teenagers are concerned, they will probably get a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again. Another reason to do away with the Youthful Defenders Act or at least overhaul it so that it does some good.

Hope that helps a little Franko

All the best       Drummy
 
Why should the parent pay. Yes to repair the damage, but not loose his weapons right. I also took my fathers guns, yes I payed after. Kids are smart, ever my daughters were able to open my locker. I say if he screwed up, nail him. If not, a fine and pay for damages.
 
Recce41 said:
Why should the parent pay. Yes to repair the damage, but not loose his weapons right. I also took my fathers guns, yes I payed after. Kids are smart, ever my daughters were able to open my locker. I say if he screwed up, nail him. If not, a fine and pay for damages.

Recce41,

I agree with you to a point, but that weapon should have been secured, with bolt and/or ammunition stored under lock and key in a different location. I know that doesn't always happen, but just possibly, the message will start to get around that it has to happen.

All the best    Drummy
 
Thanks for the info Drummy......

Wonder if it was drug related? Seems as if everyone getting arrested these days on a base it's for drugs or booze offences.

Regards
 
I agree, the parent should be charged, IF it was his/her fault for a lax in wepon security. If not, then the kdis should be 100% responsible.
 
ABSOLUTELY, the parent(s) should be charged.   No question!   It is plain to see that the firearm was not stored as it should be, with bolt and ammo removed and under lock and key in a separate location.   It's bad enough that those kids shot up a house and could have killed someone... what if they did by accident?   What if they did on purpose?   How many soldier's kids want to be just like dad, and pretend THEY are soldiers?   I know my kids are constantly pretending to act out my job, and I am constantly telling them that it is not the way they think.   And they are not allowed to point toy guns at people EVER.

I am all for the right to have firearms, but that is a supreme right that must be exercised with supreme vigilance...    :cdn:
 
The kids in gagetown run around like wild banshies. I have seen it with my own eyes. 12 year olds on the street at 2am. It's sad. Where are parents now a days. I know most teach their kids a thing or two but who is going to take responsibility for the kids of parents who dont.
 
camochick said:
The kids in gagetown run around like wild banshies.....

So tie 'em up and sort 'em out!  ;D

Regards
 
There is no indication that the rifle was stored improperly. Under the Firearms act a non restricted firearm does not have to be stored separate from it's bolt. It needs to be either in a locked case, or have a trigger lock on it. If it is a restricted firearm (as in a handgun or an AR-15 (civilian C7 semi auto) it has to have a trigger lock and be in a locked storage container.

If a youth is able to start/drive a car, I am pretty sure they could find the key to a locked storage container and/or trigger lock.

If the parents had the firearms stored according to the law (not according to what other's think they should have been) and the youth then accessed them, how is this the parents fault? If the child was a three year old and had access I could see. As it was a teenager, they are accountable for their own actions.

 
but, by the law, the firearms must be stored such that the firearms can only be accessed by PAL licensed individuals (military personel exempt)

Also, teenagers are not fully 'accountable for their own actions' until the age of 18, I suggest you check your facts. Parents can still be held responsible until then.
 
They should be held accountable even if they are under 18. I knew what was right and wrong at a young age. These kids probably knew too. They could have killed someone.
 
Interesting...here in TO a gang of thug teenagers get on local bus and shoot em up and no one is talking about stringing the parents up...I guess it's just our military sensibilities towards gun control, self discipline, and just knowing the difference between right and wrong...but when you're in the wild west (west of NB that is), it's just accepted as the norm.  These delinquents should be hit as hard as the law allows...you remember Columbine (sp), what's next.
 
I am not saying that the kids are not accountable, I am saying that the parents are responsivle for keeping the firearms away from their kids, their failure to do this, gave the kids access to the gun, and thus, the means to commit the offense. Therefore the parents should ALSO be held responsible.
 
Right so if someone breaks into your house and steals your rifle, then goes out and kills someone, you should be responsible for that as well?

If a parent leaves his/her weapons lying around the house and fully loaded, and a 6 year old child stumbles across it and accidentaly shoots himself or someone else, then yes, those parents should be held responsible.  What we're talking about here though is parents who undoubtedly stored their weapons in an appropriate manner, whose teenage children decided to take those weapons without permission, load them, drive over to someone elses house, and then put a few bullets through the windows.  There's a BIG difference between the two scenarios.  One is a tragic accident caused by the negligence of the parents and the ignorance of a child.  The other is several seperate crimes commited willingly by individuals who are old enough to know exactly what the repercussions of their actions would be.  If you hold the parents responsible for something like that, where do you draw the line?  Is a parent responsible if his 16 year old offspring decides to steal the family car and commit vehicular homicide?  What about a teen who stabs someone with a knife from the kitchen?  The parents provided access to the knife, so they're responsible, right?
 
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What we're talking about here though is parents who undoubtedly stored their weapons in an appropriate manner

Did I miss that part?.....or did you mean something else?
 
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