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We got told this today that this was plan for 2017, I feel like this was said before. Any thoughts?
Occam said:Remind me not to be anywhere near the dockyard the first time they let a stoker marry the switchboards... ;D
True, but let's face it, KIN and VIC class are a variation of the propulsion plant of the Future Fleet and both have figured out a watch system where electrical and mechanical trades mirror one another in their on-watch responsibilities. And Pusser, don't belittle the MESO trade-That Operator moniker is really only a word as it is well known now that aging equipment and professional obligation has added a 'maintainer' capability.Occam said:You've referred to the reserve trades...I was speaking of the heavies, and I was joking (mostly).
Pat in Halifax said:True, but let's face it, KIN and VIC class are a variation of the propulsion plant of the Future Fleet and both have figured out a watch system where electrical and mechanical trades mirror one another in their on-watch responsibilities. And Pusser, don't belittle the MESO trade-That Operator moniker is really only a word as it is well known now that aging equipment and professional obligation has added a 'maintainer' capability.
I know this was discussed as far back as around 1990 but I am pretty sure it is a go this time 'round.
Quite the contrary. And if you have been to the briefings, a restructuring of the MESO trade or even more is going to happen. Unfortunately, under it's current construct, the MESO trade does not meet one of the ResF mandates; to supplement RegF-MESO is the only Naval Reserve trade without a RegF counterpart.Navy_Pete said:I thought this was one of those 'good ideas' that got binned a while ago.
They still have separate trades in the billets for the new ships, there is no work ongoing on rolling it out for the existing fleet... so if they haven't started the work yet it's way too late already.
There was some talk in the fall about merging MESOs with stokers (same trade, but with a 'maintainers' and stream and an 'operator' one, with reg force doing both, while reservists operators only). Think that also got shelved as well, but could be wrong (lack of funding?)
Not saying it may not make sense, just that it's a pretty entertaining rumour.
jollyjacktar said:Speaking for myself, I cannot honestly believe there is anything that would tempt me to work for Irving.
jollyjacktar said:Pat. I do wonder, however, who will be left to see this change. I am hearing lots of discontent with the direction things have been going re: spec pay, cert 3 trainee's not being made to P2 (in a consistent manner) etc. I see a lot of pissed off Stokers and have witnessed seeing some smart, young guys leave the CF and a goodly number of experienced guys are looking hard at civilian job opportunities out there. I know people leave all the time, but from my close vantage point it seems as if they're going to drive many good folks away in frustration. And it's happening in droves in the ET world too.
maple360 said:As the guy at the bottom of the pole, I find the trade great. The problem comes in when there is WORK to be done and the bosses feel that we should take part in store ship/cleaning stations/hands fall in/ etc when we have Rod or DG problems that need to be sorted or we don't go home type thing.
Pusser said:What makes you think that those things are not WORK or that they are less important? Everybody eats, so everybody can store ship.