Exercise MAPLE RESOLVE

[JorgSlice]

Well, we are the ones who put our national training centre on the edge of the arctic, and then act all surprised every time there is a little snow.

Personally, I think we only had two better options, and we missed them. Back when the US was downsizing and closing bases, we could have scooped up something like Fort Ord, California, manned it with a skeleton crew, and used the hell out of it. The US would have been happy to delay the environmental survey and cleanup. Or we could have done something in BC. Building on the units in Chilliwack, Work Point and Jericho, finding some land, expropriating, and clear-cutting a year round training area. Basically Shilo without the snow.

But we missed both options, and now our guys are training for combat in jungles and deserts in the snow.

Chilliwack doesn't get any snow!? 

Are you on the glue!? 

 

[cupper]

Well, we are the ones who put our national training centre on the edge of the arctic, and then act all surprised every time there is a little snow.

And coming down south doesn't guarantee you won't get snow either. Just ask the group from the Atlantic area who came down to Fort Pickett in Virginia last February, only to find themselves in the only snow storm in the mid Atlantic region last winter. Had they been just an hour north, would have had a nice sunny day.

 

[Old and Tired]

Yeah, but Cupper we brought that with us in a sea can because it was part of the BTS that we had to have a tick mark for.  Easy way for the majority of soldiers to get the Winter Indoc check mark. Tell them we're going to Sunny Pleasent Virginia then crack open the Sea can and presto instant winter.

I recall being in Suffield in August and and the same thing happened to us.  I'd have to ask Tank Troll but I think it was round about 20 - 25 august and we received 4 inches of snow in about two hours after the smoker the night before we tore down to go back to Calgary.  I can just imagine the same thing happening at Fort Ord or Fort Irwin. People in California would love us.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

And coming down south doesn't guarantee you won't get snow either. Just ask the group from the Atlantic area who came down to Fort Pickett in Virginia last February, only to find themselves in the only snow storm in the mid Atlantic region last winter. Had they been just an hour north, would have had a nice sunny day.

Yeah, but Cupper we brought that with us in a sea can because it was part of the BTS that we had to have a tick mark for.  Easy way for the majority of soldiers to get the Winter Indoc check mark. Tell them we're going to Sunny Pleasent Virginia then crack open the Sea can and presto instant winter.

Ah that was 36 CBG.....happened to 37 CBG in 2009....took the HQ 2 days to realize that they had "heavy equipment (aka me and a Backhoe)"  to clear the FOB

 

[DirtyDog]

Very Canadian: preparing for war in Central Asia by training in the snow. I thought we were smarter than the British?  (who always seemed to prepare me for the desert by training in arctic Norway, or the equivalent) ;D

Thankfully TF 1-10 avoided that by going to Fort Irwin.  Although it was for 2 months.....

It might have been costly but I'm happy to have missed ever going to Wainwright at this point in my career.

 

[tomahawk6]

Ft Lewis/Yakima Training Center have been used by the CF for training for decades. Yakima is great if you want desert conditions and wide open space for live fire of all types of weapons.

 

[McG]

Very Canadian: preparing for war in Central Asia by training in the snow.

That is the high readiness BG, not Op ATTENTION. They are not preparing for war in central Asia; they are preparing for war anywhere.  So, there is nothing wrong with a little snow.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Ft Lewis/Yakima Training Center have been used by the CF for training for decades. Yakima is great if you want desert conditions and wide open space for live fire of all types of weapons.

US live fire ranges have a tendency to be dramatically more restrictive than Canadian ones.  Wainwright is a very useful training area that we have invested a lot of money in, and so I firmly believe that we should use it. 

 

[dapaterson]

Thankfully TF 1-10 avoided that by going to Fort Irwin.  Although it was for 2 months.....

With just a smidge of rain instead of snow.  Hardly noticeable, though.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Ft Lewis was very restrictive, YFC was pretty free to use as I recall. It could snow there as well.