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Feds not battling military rents

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http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/OttawaSun/News/2004/12/24/795710-sun.html

Feds not battling military rents

Hikes for families living on bases not 'unreasonable,' treasury board prez says

By STEPHANIE RUBEC, Parliamentary Bureau



THE FEDERAL government has handed Canadian soldiers living in military homes a lump of coal for Christmas. Treasury Board President Reg Alcock decided against taking action on the steep $100 rent increase slapped on hundreds of soldiers and their families living on bases across Canada.

"On the face of it, it sounds like there is a problem," Alcock said in an interview.

"But I had a look at the whole portfolio. On seeing the facts, I just don't think it's unreasonable."

Families living in 300 of the 11,100 military homes faced the maximum monthly rent increase last month of $100. On average rents were raised by $11 across the country.

The hike is meant to bring their rents in line with those in the surrounding community. The benchmark price for the units is set by the Canada Housing and Mortgage Corporation and applied to similar-sized units on the same base by the military housing agency.

If housing values drop, then military rents are decreased.

Alcock said the rents remain below local market values even with the recent rent increase, and no one will pay more than 25% of their income in rent.

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Also, Alcock pointed out that the housing agency will be spending more than $120 million this year to upgrade units -- bringing total renovation costs since 1997 to almost $500 million.

"Put all that together and this is not such a big deal," he said, adding he's combed through a detailed report prepared by his staff on military housing. "I don't think it's unrealistic."

Alcock said he's been assured that no military base in Canada charges more in rent than the surrounding market.

Defence Minister Bill Graham asked Alcock to review the Treasury Board policy, which requires the military to bring its rents in line with local market value last month.

Soldiers have complained that some of the homes are over-priced and sub-standard, plagued with poor insulation and leaky basements.

Graham said he wants action on problems facing homes on specific bases.

"What I heard is in certain specific areas there are problems and I want to make sure those have been addressed," he said.

Graham said he wants base homes to be compared to similar quality homes in nearby communities, and not to the higher-end houses that often flank them.

"I still want to be satisfied that there aren't local distortions that make those comparisons difficult," he said.

"When I've had a chance to discuss this, I may be going back to Treasury Board."
 
Also, Alcock pointed out that the housing agency will be spending more than $120 million this year to upgrade units -- bringing total renovation costs since 1997 to almost $500 million.

Judging by these numbers the Auditor General should be starting an investigation.  The question that needs to be answered is: 'How is it possible to spend on average $34,545.45 in repairs per unit (11,000 units) since 1997 and still have PMQ's in places such as Kingston and North Bay that leak and have no insulation?'

Maybe Rideau Hall is consided a PMQ?
 
I one of the fortunate one's that chose to live in a PMQ right out of trg.  I cannot wait to get a house of my own (hopefully next year) as I am currently paying into nothing.  This being said, the PMQ's are a good deal for younger families that cannot initially afford to purchase a home.  The quality is below standard and the quality of service from CFHA is abysmal, but I chose to live here.  I do not think that my two bedroom bunglow would be worth 1100 if I lived in a place like Vancouver.  In comparison to the local economy here in New Brunswick, I do feel that I am getting a good deal.  I do not agree with the government raising rents $100 for some families as this surely hit the disposable income.  Yes, there are many houses here that probably flooded last night and need repairs. I am sure that CFHA told the individuals that called in that they are on the waiting list.  To be quite honest I am mainly dissatisfied with the customer service at CFHA...I am tired of people there thinking they are in the military and trying to intimadate with scare tactics like calling the Base.  Or having soldiers with families file a noise complaint with CFHA because they moved a bunch of bachelors in next door that like to party and believe lights out still is 2300 like the shacks. CFHA kindly directs your complaint to the Base who rarely does anything unless the CO becomes involved.  Its not the government that has the problem, its CFHA.
 
birdgunnersrule,
I'm in the recruit process and have the possibility to be posted to Gagetown. How is the housing market?  I have a home, which I will have to sell.  I'm not looking for anything exceptional.  Something 90 or 100 000.  I don't know the market so that may get me a palace or a dump.
I get the impression you are on the look for housing. Just wondering what you might have found out?!?
 
I believe like all transactions, the term 'caveat emptor' needs to be employed when renting.  Although I can sympathize with rents increasing (as they do everywhere),  taxes and maintenance also go up for owners.  After just shelling out $13,000 for vital repairs and waiting for my property taxes to go up by (not to) $1,000 per year, I have a different opinion.  Why isn't pay raised to the point where all members have a suitable income?

If affordable housing is vital to the military effort then it should be made open to all.
 
ab136 said:
birdgunnersrule,
I'm in the recruit process and have the possibility to be posted to Gagetown. How is the housing market?   I have a home, which I will have to sell.   I'm not looking for anything exceptional.   Something 90 or 100 000.   I don't know the market so that may get me a palace or a dump.
I get the impression you are on the look for housing. Just wondering what you might have found out?!?

I just sold my house in gagetown this summer..i sold low at 125 000 so forget about getting anything decent in the range you propose........ like i said, i just left so if you have any questions...ask me.
 
There are a few places like this here in Edmonton, i know one of the cpls he gets ice on the walls in one corner and he has complained to cf ha so many times he has given up, Why doesn't Alcock live in a pmq for one winter and see the conditions that many of the soldiers are living in. I can almost guarantee there would be changes
 
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