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Freedom Convoy protests [Split from All things 2019-nCoV]

And if anyone was wondering.


Note what he said about a few years ago (talking about when indigenous groups blocked rail). Looks like a consistant approach.

So who’s telling the truth?

Ottawa Police Chief Sloly?
Ottawa Police Chief Peter Sloly said Wednesday that all options “for the resolution of this demonstration” are on the table, from a court injunction to potentially calling in the Canadian Armed Forces…

…or PM Trudeau?
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says calling in the military to end the trucker convoy standoff in Ottawa is “not in the cards right now,”
🤔
 
It’s not hard to figure out.

Chief Sloly says all options are in the table. With further questioning he didn’t rule out asking for military assistance.

As far as I know that hasn’t be asked for. But he said that option was there. TO ASK.

Trudeau responds by saying it’s not in the cards. That might have been used as a message to the city of Ottawa just like they were obviously telegraphing.

So they can ask all they want the feds can approve or deny. Right now they don’t seem to have an appetite to approve. And they are letting everyone know.
 
Which may be a statement-specific factual analysis, but it also speaks to a conflicting position by the PM, who on one hand paints the protestors as the worst of racist, misogynistic and violent citizens on the furthest fringes of Canadian society…BUUUUUUUUUT…(by logical extension, as you so note, Remius) implies that Ottawa Police Chief Sloly is asking too much…

Perhaps he should consider a legal name-change to Janus Trudeau???
 
It’s not hard to figure out.

Chief Sloly says all options are in the table. With further questioning he didn’t rule out asking for military assistance.

As far as I know that hasn’t be asked for. But he said that option was there. TO ASK.

Trudeau responds by saying it’s not in the cards. That might have been used as a message to the city of Ottawa just like they were obviously telegraphing.

So they can ask all they want the feds can approve or deny. Right now they don’t seem to have an appetite to approve. And they are letting everyone know.
The province has to ask the Feds first. So Ottawa has to go to the province to seek Aid to the Civil Power UNLESS Ottawa as the NCR has some kind of hall pass.
 
The province has to ask the Feds first. So Ottawa has to go to the province to seek Aid to the Civil Power UNLESS Ottawa as the NCR has some kind of hall pass.
Correct. But the ask has to be made. That is my understanding of his statement his him making that ask.
 

The conspicuous absence of South Asian truck drivers in the so-called Freedom Convoy that is protesting border vaccine mandates in Ottawa, is reflective of the community’s willingness to get vaccinated against COVID-19, say industry experts.

The protest has also hit the headlines in India, where almost a quarter of Canada’s 300,000 truck drivers hail from, after Bollywood diva Kangana Ranaut derided Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for “hiding at a secret location” as the protestors choked the nation’s capital.

Trudeau, who has denounced the protests, has been in quarantine since last week after testing positive for COVID 19 alongside two of his three children. He has refused to meet with the protestors, calling the Freedom Convoy an “insult to truth” about COVID vaccines.

“You hardly see any South Asian truckers in this Freedom Convoy protest because the community at large is very pro-vaccine…This is reflective of the high vaccination rates in the South Asian community,” Manan Gupta, the editor of Road Today, a magazine that focuses on issues facing South Asian truckers, told New Canadian Media.

“The Freedom Convoy has also been hijacked by some right wing interests and really doesn’t reflect the key issues the trucking industry faces…The organizers and most of the people protesting have no direct links to trucking.”
In the Peel Region of Ontario where there is a large South Asian immigrant population and which is home to about 2,000 trucking companies, almost 90 per cent of residents 12 and older are fully vaccinated, Gupta noted.


“The vaccination rates in Surrey, which has a big South Asian population, is also very high,” said Gupta, adding that most long-haul truck drivers in Canada have been vaccinated.

“I don’t know of any South Asian truckers who are interested in being part of this protest movement,” said Gupta, whose magazine has about 25,000 readers monthly.

Statistics Canada has said that a higher proportion of the South Asian population (82.5 per cent) has “reported a willingness to receive the vaccine.” Similar high rates were reported for other visible minority communities.

Mostly white

Immigrants from South Asia have accounted for a massive shift in the demographics of Canada’s truck drivers, according to research conducted by Newcom Media’s editorial teams, drawing on more than 25 years of Canada Census data. Overall, almost one in five (17.8 per cent) of Canada’s truck drivers have South Asian backgrounds.

According to the data: “In Vancouver, South Asian immigrants now account for the majority (55.9 per cent) of drivers. The share in Toronto is not far behind at 53.9 per cent.”

Despite these numbers, the Freedom Convoy and protestors are mainly white Canadians, according to social media postings and on-site media reports.

Wesley Richards, the human resources manager for a B.C. trucking company, said the South Asian truck drivers and fleet owners he has talked to have no interest in the Freedom Convoy movement, which has raised over $9.6 million on its GoFundMe page.

“Most of them are vaccinated because they live in large households with elderly parents and in-laws…they don’t want to be bringing COVID back home from their trips,” he told NCM.

“It does not make sense for them to be part of this vaccine protest which has now become a political movement…these guys are more interested in being safe and supporting their families,” he said.

The owner of a trucking company which has been in business for over 50 years, who preferred to remain anonymous, said the Freedom Convoy should be raising issues like the crippling shortage of drivers and highway safety.

“The new border vaccine rules have had minimal impact on our operations, but highway conditions and a lack of drivers is taking a toll,” he said.

“My drivers were more interested in the recent rally in Vancouver and Surrey which called for better highway conditions rather than this vaccine protest in Ottawa.”
That rally was organized by a new trucking group comprising mainly of South Asian drivers from India called the West Coast Trucking Association (WCTA).

Driver shortage crisis

Meanwhile, the Canadian Trucking Alliance, (CTA) which has denounced the antics of the Freedom Convoy, is using the national focus on the industry to urge the government to take “priority action” to address the driver shortage crisis.

In a meeting with Transportation Minister Omar Alghabra and other stakeholders earlier this week, CTA president Stephen Laskowski said: “The labour shortages in trucking warrants priority action by the government of Canada to secure the supply chain and improve Canada’s economic recovery.”

The Alliance reported that the labour shortage in the trucking industry was already a significant problem before the pandemic, with the industry forecasting a shortfall of 55,000 drivers by the end of 2023. Current statistics show the industry is already well on its way to meeting this forecast and in the fourth quarter of 2021 has already surpassed 23,000 truck driver vacancies.

In a statement, the CTA said it would like to work with the Canadian government to develop a pre-approved known employer process for foreign drivers. It is also calling for a more streamlined pathways for foreign drivers to become permanent residents.


 
…and Rupa Subramanya makes good points on the hypocrisy of Trudeau’s preachiness supporting Indian protestors years ago versus his unrelenting gaslighting of the protesting truckers in Ottawa:

Sounds about right.
Let me remind you, Canada will always be there to defend the rights of peaceful protesters. We believe in the process of dialogue … This is a moment for all of us to pull together.”
 
Which may be a statement-specific factual analysis, but it also speaks to a conflicting position by the PM, who on one hand paints the protestors as the worst of racist, misogynistic and violent citizens on the furthest fringes of Canadian society…BUUUUUUUUUT…(by logical extension, as you so note, Remius) implies that Ottawa Police Chief Sloly is asking too much…

Perhaps he should consider a legal name-change to Janus Trudeau???
"Some things suck here" isn't mutually exclusive from/can exist in the same situation as "Don't need this type of help for the suck in question", no?
 

The conspicuous absence of South Asian truck drivers in the so-called Freedom Convoy that is protesting border vaccine mandates in Ottawa, is reflective of the community’s willingness to get vaccinated against COVID-19, say industry experts.

The protest has also hit the headlines in India, where almost a quarter of Canada’s 300,000 truck drivers hail from, after Bollywood diva Kangana Ranaut derided Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for “hiding at a secret location” as the protestors choked the nation’s capital.

Trudeau, who has denounced the protests, has been in quarantine since last week after testing positive for COVID 19 alongside two of his three children. He has refused to meet with the protestors, calling the Freedom Convoy an “insult to truth” about COVID vaccines.

“You hardly see any South Asian truckers in this Freedom Convoy protest because the community at large is very pro-vaccine…This is reflective of the high vaccination rates in the South Asian community,” Manan Gupta, the editor of Road Today, a magazine that focuses on issues facing South Asian truckers, told New Canadian Media.


In the Peel Region of Ontario where there is a large South Asian immigrant population and which is home to about 2,000 trucking companies, almost 90 per cent of residents 12 and older are fully vaccinated, Gupta noted.


“The vaccination rates in Surrey, which has a big South Asian population, is also very high,” said Gupta, adding that most long-haul truck drivers in Canada have been vaccinated.

“I don’t know of any South Asian truckers who are interested in being part of this protest movement,” said Gupta, whose magazine has about 25,000 readers monthly.

Statistics Canada has said that a higher proportion of the South Asian population (82.5 per cent) has “reported a willingness to receive the vaccine.” Similar high rates were reported for other visible minority communities.

Mostly white

Immigrants from South Asia have accounted for a massive shift in the demographics of Canada’s truck drivers, according to research conducted by Newcom Media’s editorial teams, drawing on more than 25 years of Canada Census data. Overall, almost one in five (17.8 per cent) of Canada’s truck drivers have South Asian backgrounds.

According to the data: “In Vancouver, South Asian immigrants now account for the majority (55.9 per cent) of drivers. The share in Toronto is not far behind at 53.9 per cent.”

Despite these numbers, the Freedom Convoy and protestors are mainly white Canadians, according to social media postings and on-site media reports.

Wesley Richards, the human resources manager for a B.C. trucking company, said the South Asian truck drivers and fleet owners he has talked to have no interest in the Freedom Convoy movement, which has raised over $9.6 million on its GoFundMe page.

“Most of them are vaccinated because they live in large households with elderly parents and in-laws…they don’t want to be bringing COVID back home from their trips,” he told NCM.

“It does not make sense for them to be part of this vaccine protest which has now become a political movement…these guys are more interested in being safe and supporting their families,” he said.

The owner of a trucking company which has been in business for over 50 years, who preferred to remain anonymous, said the Freedom Convoy should be raising issues like the crippling shortage of drivers and highway safety.

“The new border vaccine rules have had minimal impact on our operations, but highway conditions and a lack of drivers is taking a toll,” he said.


That rally was organized by a new trucking group comprising mainly of South Asian drivers from India called the West Coast Trucking Association (WCTA).

Driver shortage crisis

Meanwhile, the Canadian Trucking Alliance, (CTA) which has denounced the antics of the Freedom Convoy, is using the national focus on the industry to urge the government to take “priority action” to address the driver shortage crisis.

In a meeting with Transportation Minister Omar Alghabra and other stakeholders earlier this week, CTA president Stephen Laskowski said: “The labour shortages in trucking warrants priority action by the government of Canada to secure the supply chain and improve Canada’s economic recovery.”

The Alliance reported that the labour shortage in the trucking industry was already a significant problem before the pandemic, with the industry forecasting a shortfall of 55,000 drivers by the end of 2023. Current statistics show the industry is already well on its way to meeting this forecast and in the fourth quarter of 2021 has already surpassed 23,000 truck driver vacancies.

In a statement, the CTA said it would like to work with the Canadian government to develop a pre-approved known employer process for foreign drivers. It is also calling for a more streamlined pathways for foreign drivers to become permanent residents.


The SE community is very political disciplined, had they been told by their leaders to go, they would have gone. Likely the leaders have their own agenda, hence no orders to attend.
 
The protesters are getting more organized

See, this is something they should have done on Day 1.

I still don't agree with their points, but at least this makes them seem a bit more legit rather than "we're working with a lawyer that we won't name".

The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (the org who is giving them the legal advice), unsurprisingly, is affiliated with right-wing causes.
 
Just a thought but did the PM denounce BLM, Antifa etc protests? From what I recall there was a lot of looting and destruction during those events.

Or am I just being an offended "Karen".....
 
Damn, this guy just can't get his message straight.

One minute he calls everyone racists, misogynists, homophobes, transphobes, nazis, fringe minority (gotta find an acronym for his hate groups, he has too many to write all the time) and refuses to meet because he doesn't agree with their message. Even though it is their Rights as Canadians to assemble peacefully and protest the opinions they want. So he lies, resorts to ad hominems, stokes fear and anger and gaslights the Canadian people.

Then, like a chameleon on a checker board, he says his goal is to resolve it peacefully?

The mark of a true leader is not meeting with those you agree with, to suck up and score brownie points with your sycophants. A true, honest and diligent leader meets with those they don't like, so you can sit and discuss and try resolve differences so everyone can work together.

A sad, pathetic little man with a Napoleon complex, but without needing high heels.

 
See, this is something they should have done on Day 1.

I still don't agree with their points, but at least this makes them seem a bit more legit rather than "we're working with a lawyer that we won't name".

The Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (the org who is giving them the legal advice), unsurprisingly, is affiliated with right-wing causes.
Don't forget, these people are not our typical protesters, the majority have never done anything like this before. This is actually how real protests work, not the faux ones we are used to.
 
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