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Two French paratroopers shot dead on street

By JOHANNA DECORSE, Associated Press

Thursday, March 15, 2012, 10:52 PDT TOULOUSE, France (AP) --

A gunman on a motorbike opened fire on three French paratroopers at a bank machine in southern France, killing two and critically wounding one of them Thursday, officials said. It was the second such attack in a week targeting French soldiers in a public place.

Earlier, the Defense Ministry had issued a statement saying all three paratroopers had died, but a local police official and a Defense Ministry official later said one of them was in critical condition.

The three uniformed soldiers had been standing at a bank machine in the town of Montauban when a helmeted assailant arrived on a motorbike and opened fire, then fled, the police official said.

Defense Minister Gerard Longuet expressed his condolences to the soldiers, their families and their regiment in a statement. They all three served with the 17th paratrooper combat engineering regiment, based nearby.

On Sunday, a 30-year-old soldier was fatally shot near a gymnasium in the southern city of Toulouse by an unidentified attacker.

Neither the defense minister nor police announced any link between the two attacks, and the motives remain unclear.

The police official said the two soldiers killed Thursday were 24 and 26 years old.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17389013


Two soldiers shot dead in south-west France


Two soldiers have been killed and a third wounded by a gunman on a scooter who opened fire near a military base at Montauban in southern France.

Earlier reports said all three had died. Police said the soldiers were withdrawing cash, but theft did not appear to be the motive.

The attacker, wearing a helmet with a visor, sped off after opening fire.

The attack took place near a military base housing the country's 17th Parachute Engineer Regiment.

Some 15 spent cartridges were found at the scene, police said.

"The theft was not the motive of the murders," a police official in Montauban told the BBC, adding that all avenues of inquiry were currently open.

He described a potential link between Thursday's shootings and the gunning down of another soldier in Toulouse on Sunday as "a possibility, not a certainty".

The two soldiers who died were aged 24 and 26 and the third, aged 28, is in hospital. French media reports quoting officials earlier said that the third soldier had died from his injuries, but the defence ministry and police later said he remained in a critical condition.

France's Defence Minister, Gerard Longuet, issued a statement expressing his "deepest sorrow at the assassination of the two soldiers, and the wounding of a third".

He said he had every confidence that the police would ensure justice was achieved in the case.

A large number of police officers are already involved in an extensive search for the gunman and prosecutors have said that they are considering a number of possibilities, including that the shooting was the result of a personal dispute.

The incident follows another shooting, on Sunday, when a 30-year-old soldier was shot dead by an assailant on a motorcycle in a residential area of Toulouse, 29 miles (46km) south of Montauban.

The south-west of the country is home to all of France's elite airborne units.

 
I have to wonder if this is at all tied to the French government enforcing illegal immigration and imposing restrictions on burka's among many anti-immigrant changes in the past few years.....
 
Could also be some Basque or Corsican hot-heads ...

Condolences to all involved
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Here's an online web form through which you can send an e-mail to France's military attache at the Embassy in Ottawa if you feel the need to send condolences.
 
Reposez en Paix...  :salute:

La Prière du Para

Donnez-moi, mon Dieu, ce qui vous reste
Donnez-moi ce qu’on ne vous demande jamais.
Je ne vous demande pas le repos
Ni la tranquillité
Ni celle de l’âme, ni celle du corps.
Je ne vous demande pas la richesse
Ni le succès, ni même la santé.
Tout ça, mon Dieu, on vous le demande tellement
Que vous ne devez plus en avoir.
Donnez-moi, mon Dieu, ce qui vous reste
Donnez-moi ce qu’on vous refuse.
Je veux l’insécurité et l’inquiétude.
Je veux la tourmente et la bagarre.
Et que vous me les donniez, mon Dieu, définitivement.
Que je suis sûr de les avoir toujours
Car je n’aurai pas toujours le courage
De vous les demander.
Donnez-moi, mon Dieu, ce qui vous reste.
Donnez-moi ce dont les autres ne veulent pas.
Mais donnez-moi aussi le courage
Et la force et la Foi.

André Zirnheld Parachutiste de la France Libre Mort au champ d’honneur en 1942
 
Deepest condolences.  Find the guilty and make them pay dearly.  :salute: :yellow:
 
milnews.ca said:
Here's an online web form through which you can send an e-mail to France's military attache at the Embassy in Ottawa if you feel the need to send condolences.

Got a response from the French Defence Attaché Office:

La mission de défense d'Ottawa, très sensible à votre témoignage de
sympathie et de soutien adressé aux proches des victimes, vous prie
d'accepter ses remerciements pour vos respectueuses et chaleureuses
condoléances, et se fait un devoir de relayer votre message.

The Defence Attaché Office in Ottawa was deeply touched by your
expression of sympathy and support to the victims' families and wishes
to thank you for your warm and respectful condolences. We will make it
our duty to pass on your message.


Colonel Siegfried Usal,
Attaché de défense près l'Ambassade de France au Canada
Defence Attaché to the Embassy of France in Canada
 
Sythen said:
Got a response from the French Defence Attaché Office:

La mission de défense d'Ottawa, très sensible à votre témoignage de
sympathie et de soutien adressé aux proches des victimes, vous prie
d'accepter ses remerciements pour vos respectueuses et chaleureuses
condoléances, et se fait un devoir de relayer votre message.

The Defence Attaché Office in Ottawa was deeply touched by your
expression of sympathy and support to the victims' families and wishes
to thank you for your warm and respectful condolences. We will make it
our duty to pass on your message.


Colonel Siegfried Usal,
Attaché de défense près l'Ambassade de France au Canada
Defence Attaché to the Embassy of France in Canada
Thanks for sharing that - good to see the link/page working.
 
I received the same reply this afternoon.  Nice to get some response.  I hope they hunt down those responsible swiftly and deal with them as the French sometimes do in cases like this.  With vigor. 
 
Sythen said:
Got a response from the French Defence Attaché Office:

La mission de défense d'Ottawa, très sensible à votre témoignage de
sympathie et de soutien adressé aux proches des victimes, vous prie
d'accepter ses remerciements pour vos respectueuses et chaleureuses
condoléances, et se fait un devoir de relayer votre message.

The Defence Attaché Office in Ottawa was deeply touched by your
expression of sympathy and support to the victims' families and wishes
to thank you for your warm and respectful condolences. We will make it
our duty to pass on your message.


Colonel Siegfried Usal,
Attaché de défense près l'Ambassade de France au Canada
Defence Attaché to the Embassy of France in Canada

I got one of those today too.

MM
 
No word if this in the same area is linked, but French security appears to be cranked up now.....
The man who killed four people at a Jewish school in Toulouse had a camera around his neck and may have filmed the scene, France's interior minister says.

Claude Gueant said the camera was one clue helping police build a profile, as the manhunt intensifies with the area on the highest level of terror alert.

Police have linked the attack to two shootings last week in which three soldiers of North African descent died.

The same gun and the same scooter were used in all the attacks.

French schools held a minute's silence on Tuesday ....
 
Heard on the radio that one of the weapons in the school shootings, a .45, was linked positively with the shootings of the paratroopers.

Looking for a printed or online source to back it up.

Shooting soldiers, albeit unarmed, is one thing.....shooting a 4 year old...........

Wook
 
Also heard on the radio on the way into work today that it is suspected the shooters may be some neo-nazi types who were kicked out of the French military in 08.  Seeing as the Para's were of N African ethnicity and the kids were Jewish, there may be something to this theory.  Nevertheless, I hope the Gendarmes or whichever get to them first applies vigorous mineral therapy on site.  Sounds like they need it badly.
 
An update that is ongoing as I type.  http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/03/21/france-shooting-suspects.html

[size=12pt]French police in standoff with suspected killer[/size]
Three officers injured in gunfight, minister says
The Associated Press Posted: Mar 21, 2012 1:46 AM ET Last Updated: Mar 21, 2012 6:37 AM ET

A predawn police raid on a home in Toulouse erupted into a firefight Wednesday with a gunman who claims connections to al-Qaeda and is suspected of killing three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi and three paratroopers.  The man has thrown his handgun out a window but has other weapons on him, including an AK-47 assault rifle, and has used them in volleys with police surrounding the building in this southwestern city, French Interior Minister Claude Gueant said.  Three policemen have been wounded in the operation, which is still ongoing, Gueant said. The suspect's brother has been arrested.  Gueant said the suspect is talking to a police negotiator and says he'll surrender in the afternoon. The minister says police want to take him alive.

'He said he wants to avenge the deaths of Palestinians.'  —French Interior Minister Claude GueantThe suspect is 24 years old, of French nationality and says "he belongs to al-Qaeda," Gueant told reporters. He said the suspect "wants to take revenge for Palestinian children" killed in the Middle East, and is angry at the French military for its operations abroad.  The man was known to authorities for having spent time in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The shooting suspect is "talking a lot, claiming his jihadist convictions" and calling himself a "mujahedeen," Gueant said.  "He said he wants to avenge the deaths of Palestinians," the minister said, adding that he is "less explicit" about killing French paratroopers.  Authorities have been conducting a massive manhunt across a swath of southern France after seven people were killed in three attacks over the past several days, and France's terror alert level was raised to its highest level ever in the region.

A French paratrooper was killed in Toulouse on March 11, two other paratroopers were killed and one injured on Thursday in the nearby town of Montauban, and three children and a rabbi were killed in a shooting at a Jewish school in Toulouse on Monday.  The suspect in the attacks drove a powerful motorcycle, and the same weapon, a Colt 45, was used in all three shootings. Another less powerful weapon also was used in the attack on the Jewish school.

Police arrived overnight Wednesday to raid the house in Toulouse, near the site of the first killing.  "When they arrived … the wanted individual shot at the door," Gueant said.  One officer was injured in the knee and another officer was lightly injured in ensuing exchanges of fire, Gueant said.  Officers brought the suspect's mother to the scene and tried to get her to help negotiate, but she refused, saying "she had little influence on him," Gueant said.

For years the main terrorist threat that French authorities have been concerned about has been al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, which grew from an extremist group in the former French colony of Algeria.  French officials have been worried that the group may try to conduct an action in France ahead of presidential elections in April and May, a counterterrorism official told The Associated Press this week. So far, it has never succeeded in reaching across the Mediterranean Sea to strike in Europe.

While the Toulouse raid was under way, the bodies of the four victims of the school shooting arrived in Israel for burial. The three children and a rabbi will be buried in a Jerusalem cemetery later Wednesday.  They were gunned down on Monday in the deadliest school shooting France has ever known and the bloodiest attack on Jewish targets in decades.  The bodies of the rabbi, two of his children and a daughter of the school's principal were accompanied to Israel by French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe. They landed early Wednesday.

© The Associated Press, 2012




 
milnews.ca said:
Could also be some Basque or Corsican hot-heads ....
I stand quite corrected.....
French school shooting suspect Mohamed Merah had been arrested for bomb making in the southern Afghan province of Kandahar in 2007 but escaped months later in a Taliban prison break, the director of prisons in Kandahar told Reuters.

Merah, a French citizen of Algerian origin, was suspected of killing seven people in the name of al Qaeda, including three children at a Jewish school in southwestern France.

Kandahar prison chief Ghulam Faruq said that security forces detained Merah on December 19, 2007, and he was sentenced to three years in jail for planting bombs in Kandahar province, the Taliban's birthplace.

Merah escaped jail along with up to 1,000 prisoners, including 400 Taliban insurgents, during a Taliban attack on southern Afghanistan's main prison in June 2008 ....
Reuters, 21 Mar 12

Perhaps this escape?
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/threads/77267.0.html
 
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