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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
Probably the better option right now.

Divest of shearwater all together.

It would be. There is way more space down on 14 Wing to put the MH fleet than there would be in Shearwater to move 404, 405, 413, 415 Sqns as well as 14 WOps and the MSS and OSS folks.

The hangars for the FW stuff take up a fair amount of real estate that I don’t believe exits at YAW now.
 
Any ideas of divest / relocate need to consider the size of the destination community, and the availability of housing. Dropping hundreds more people into the Annapolis Valley if there aren't places to live available would be problematic at best.
 
There is way more space down on 14 Wing to put the MH fleet than there would be in Shearwater to move 404, 405, 413, 415 Sqns as well as 14 WOps and the MSS and OSS folks.
How much space is around Halifax Airport to move 12 and 14 Wing units?
 
How much space is around Halifax Airport to move 12 and 14 Wing units?

That I am not sure of. My first thought is the spaces required for air weapons for all the aircraft the operate from ZX.

I am also thinking of when they moved the Airshow from Shearwater to Hfx and the realities that come with flight ops around a place like Hfx and it’s controlled airspace.
 
Any ideas of divest / relocate need to consider the size of the destination community, and the availability of housing. Dropping hundreds more people into the Annapolis Valley if there aren't places to live available would be problematic at best.

You're expecting a lot of foresight from the CAF and GOC lol

That I am not sure of. My first thought is the spaces required for air weapons for all the aircraft the operate from ZX.

I am also thinking of when they moved the Airshow from Shearwater to Hfx and the realities that come with flight ops around a place like Hfx and it’s controlled airspace.

Ya I think Stanfield is pretty much off the table.
 
As I recall as self-loading cargo traveling to Stanfield multiple times, the airport approach is basically trees, trees, Trees, Trees, TREES, OMG I CAN COUNT THE LEAVES, TREES, THAT'S IT WE ARE GOING TO DIE A FIREY DEATH CRASHING INTO THE FOREST, oh there's the runway.

So I think there may be some space around the airport.
 
Any ideas of divest / relocate need to consider the size of the destination community, and the availability of housing. Dropping hundreds more people into the Annapolis Valley if there aren't places to live available would be problematic at best.

Target of 500k new immigrants by 2025, Trudeaus answer to housing is immigrants will build their own houses, or to that effect. We are already short housing.
 
Target of 500k new immigrants by 2025, Trudeaus answer to housing is immigrants will build their own houses, or to that effect. We are already short housing.
We’re also short labour and you can’t have it both ways.
 
As I recall as self-loading cargo traveling to Stanfield multiple times, the airport approach is basically trees, trees, Trees, Trees, TREES, OMG I CAN COUNT THE LEAVES, TREES, THAT'S IT WE ARE GOING TO DIE A FIREY DEATH CRASHING INTO THE FOREST, oh there's the runway.

So I think there may be some space around the airport

There’s all kinds of airspace and space…but it is an international airport. Maybe not the best location for pounding the circuit on PPFs and doing parachuting and streamers and stuff.
 
Wainwright is a training centre; Edmonton houses units has no training area (well nearly). It’s standard to drive to wainwright to conduct most training and it’s workable.

Shilo is very isolated, having just been posted here “25 minutes to Brandon” sounds great until you realize your out of milk / butter / eggs and the canex closed at 5 pm because it’s Wednesday. Oh and you’d love to go have a beer and watch the game at the pub but there isn’t one for 30 minutes around you and the mess is open one day a week.
I remember when they closed Kapyong Barracks and the howls from the troops about not being able to see the RWB. I figured Brandon’s ballet at the Keystone would be more to the infantry’s liking!😉
 
We’re also short labour and you can’t have it both ways.
Are we short labour or are people just not willing to do shit jobs for 16 dollars an hour ? Look back to last summers air travel crisis when airlines claimed they couldn’t hire enough luggage handlers. They were offering 16 dollars an hour; what a shock no one wanted to do it.
 
Any ideas of divest / relocate need to consider the size of the destination community, and the availability of housing. Dropping hundreds more people into the Annapolis Valley if there aren't places to live available would be problematic at best.
I’m sure the savings that would accrue to consolidating all East Coast LRP and MH into Greenwood would prove just as effective as the money saved with NCR consolidation to Carling………….. 🦗 🦗 🦗
 
Are we short labour or are people just not willing to do shit jobs for 16 dollars an hour ? Look back to last summers air travel crisis when airlines claimed they couldn’t hire enough luggage handlers. They were offering 16 dollars an hour; what a shock no one wanted to do it.

Those vaccine mandates had nothing to do with it right? They laid off those people and they decided not to come back. Those sectors who mandated vaccines and now can’t find employees get what they deserve.
 
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