Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[KevinB]

Back of the napkin, 175$B, I’d argue that we are 10-12% of their pop so we are on the hook for 10-12% of the cost.

Except you are over 50% the land mass…

 

[GR66]

Except you are over 50% the land mass…

But only 2% of the targets

 

[KevinB]

But only 2% of the targets

Well your the flight path to the majority of targeted if you don’t want to be the impact area, you need to accept a reasonable cost burden.

 

[deepblue202]

Well your the flight path to the majority of targeted if you don’t want to be the impact area, you need to accept a reasonable cost burden.

So 25% ?

 

[Maxman1]

I had someone make a comment to me that we should start building war houses again. It's a great idea, but it would never fly with the developers, if they can build a million dollar home on the same piece of property, they are going to do what makes them money.

Or build more row houses, narrow three storey houses with connecting walls.

Hypothetically, if four row houses fit in the same plot as a single million dollar detached house, you could sell each for $250,000 and make the same amount.

 

[Maxman1]

Trump says Canada has asked to join his Golden Dome missile defence program

U.S. President Donald Trump announced Tuesday aspects of his plan for a “Golden Dome” missile defence shield and said “it automatically makes sense” for Canada to be involved.

www.ctvnews.ca

If true this is a big deal.

PMO confirmed it's real.

Canada in talks to join Trump’s ‘Golden Dome’ missile defence plan: PMO - National | Globalnews.ca

Trump said it 'automatically' makes sense to include Canada in the new defence system, but insisted that Canada will 'pay their fair share.'

globalnews.ca

 

[Czech_pivo]

Except you are over 50% the land mass…

If that’s the premise of your argument, then I’d say this is a 50/50 partnership where 50% of the money would be spent within Canada, on CDN companies and the Command structure would be an equal 50% partnership with a rotating US commander followed by a Canadian commander.

 

[ueo]

So 25% ?

Nah, in Donnie's mind about 90%

 

[ueo]

If that’s the premise of your argument, then I’d say this is a 50/50 partnership where 50% of the money would be spent within Canada, on CDN companies and the Command structure would be an equal 50% partnership with a rotating US commander followed by a Canadian commander.

Hmm, what drugs brought this out?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Hmm, what drugs brought this out?

Reading 'The Art of the Deal'.

Start out high and then just go higher.

 

[KevinB]

Reading 'The Art of the Deal'.

Start out high and then just go higher.

Oh I thought it was bargain everything away and then report you did the GREATEST DEAL EVER, then in 8 years go back and complain about the deal and the idiot that made it…

 

[KevinB]

Well seems like I was not the only one wondering what was going on with the space based defense aspect...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1925120676056252898

Not to mention lets think about the math geniuses that came up with this...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1924923053797965993

 

[CountDC]

Makes me wish that I was in the line of succession for a house. I'm surprised that we haven't started looking at multigenerational mortgages.

I recall an uncle that lived in an Ontario location back in 80s/90s where the multigenerational was basically the way it worked. Most people had a mortgage they never paid off as they continued to remortgage to fund their lifestyle. When they passed their kids simply did the same thing, took over the house and continued to remortgage it as they wanted things such as boats, cars, vacations, etc. Can't recall where it was other than Ontario and a sister lived with them for a bit.

Well your the flight path to the majority of targeted if you don’t want to be the impact area, you need to accept a reasonable cost burden.

hmmm; let's think about that before deciding. Where would these impact areas be so we can determine if it is worth the cost. I personally have no issue with say a certain location in Ottawa or Toronto as an impact area and saving the money.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

PMO confirmed it's real.

Canada in talks to join Trump’s ‘Golden Dome’ missile defence plan: PMO - National | Globalnews.ca

Trump said it 'automatically' makes sense to include Canada in the new defence system, but insisted that Canada will 'pay their fair share.'

globalnews.ca

From the BBC:

Canada discusses joining US Golden Dome missile defence programme

PM Mark Carney's office says there are "active discussions" on the Golden Dome, but it's too early to say how Canada would join or pay in.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[PuckChaser]

Man, I thought our traditional defense relationship with the US was dead because Carney is tough on Trump? I guess I've been gaslit again.

 

[QV]

Man, I thought our traditional defense relationship with the US was dead because Carney is tough on Trump? I guess I've been gaslit again.

You could look at that a few different ways.

Traditional defense relationship could mean as freeloaders... maybe that is now dead and we are going to start contributing more...

Or, the rhetoric was just to fuel the "elbows up" crowd into believing he was going to "stand up" to Trump... and by standing up he really meant ponying up.

 

[Remius]

Man, I thought our traditional defense relationship with the US was dead because Carney is tough on Trump? I guess I've been gaslit again.

In the big picture? I think it is dead.

Focus anything domestic and NA with US. Anything expeditionary etc elsewhere. Likely Europe.

Get enough F35s for NORAD and drop the rest for something else less reliant on their changing whims and moods.

 

[PuckChaser]

If we have a shit about being a real partner we'd have all 88 F35s for NORAD and the same number of a gen 4.5 missile truck. Cutting that order is overtly stupid but it's this generations "Cadillac helicopter".

 

[QV]

The defence relationship with the US will never be dead despite Remius' wishes.

We are in a low period that dipped further thanks to JT and the LPC. We were about to pay a hefty economic price for staying in that low period.

Now, all indications are Canada will bend the knee and kiss the ring to avoid that economic punch by spending more on defence including with US such as Golden Dome.

 

[Czech_pivo]

The defence relationship with the US will never be dead despite Remius' wishes.

We are in a low period that dipped further thanks to JT and the LPC. We were about to pay a hefty economic price for staying in that low period.

Now, all indications are Canada will bend the knee and kiss the ring to avoid that economic punch by spending more on defence including with US such as Golden Dome.

The reality goes back to the end of the Mulroney era when the decision was made to scrap the 12 nuc subs in place of another 6 Halifax frigates as was the original plan - then scrap the 12 nuc subs altogether and then elect JC (not our Lord and Savior) and he in turned scrapped the EH101 and costs us a pretty penny and started to enhancement of the bleeding out of the CAF in the late 1990's. Add in a few other PM's who did nothing to staunch the bleeding out and voila, 25yrs later, here we are.

The decision by PM back in 2005 to not enter in the Ballistic Missile defense plan was a dick move that costed us creditability with the US. We now talk about the US no longer being a 'reliable ally', what do you think the US was saying about us in 2005?