Gov't staffer arrested in alleged leak of green plan
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George Wallace
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More from the Ottawa Sun shared under the Fair Dealings Act:
As was pointed out by a few others, it seems that this guy and his supporters feel that the 'rules' only apply when they want them to. What would have been the story, had someone leaked their groups manifesto? What would the Civil Servant's Union Bosses have said had their Union 'secrets' were leaked? Funny thing that, how rules suddenly apply differently, depending on who you may be.
Makes me wonder if I should buy a can of spray paint and spray their office with Pro-Government slogans........opps!.......that is another topic.
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As was pointed out by a few others, it seems that this guy and his supporters feel that the 'rules' only apply when they want them to. What would have been the story, had someone leaked their groups manifesto? What would the Civil Servant's Union Bosses have said had their Union 'secrets' were leaked? Funny thing that, how rules suddenly apply differently, depending on who you may be.
Makes me wonder if I should buy a can of spray paint and spray their office with Pro-Government slogans........opps!.......that is another topic.
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George Wallace
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geo said:
As I pointed out earlier, there is a big difference between being a "Whistleblower" and a "Treasonous Dog". I would say that the latter applies in this case.
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geo said:
Got to agree with the consensus here Geo. A whistleblower is someone who brings forth evidence of fraud, corruption, illegal or unethical activity, or misconduct and safety infractions to someone who is in authority to make corrective measures occur.
That was not was this loser was all about.
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To echo what's already been said, the Conservative party does indeed "like" whistleblowers.geo said:
Whistleblower: A whistleblower is an employee, former employee, or member of an organization, especially a business or government agency, who reports misconduct to people or entities that have the power and presumed willingness to take corrective action. Generally the misconduct is a violation of law, rule, regulation and/or a direct threat to public interest — fraud, health, safety violations, and corruption are just a few examples. For instance, Jeffrey Wigand is well-known in the United States for exposing the Big Tobacco scandal, revealing that executives of the companies knew that cigarettes were addictive and that they added other carcinogenic ingredients to the cigarettes. (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower)
Joe blow (or whatever his name is) is accused of releasing secret documents. That, my "friend", is breach of trust. Now, had he had knowledge that say the Tories were killing puppies in the back room for profit on theinternet (http://www.deadpuppylust.com/fights.htm), well, then, that would be whistleblowing. So, if it's true that he released secret documents, then look it up in the criminal code.
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Tales of two leakers spark furor in Ottawa
By BILL CURRY AND ALEX DOBROTA
Friday, May 11, 2007 – Page A1
OTTAWA -- Jeffrey Monaghan was a government contract worker who is alleged to have scooped the Conservatives by leaking details of the government's green plan. He was led away in handcuffs Wednesday and fired from his job.
Jeffrey Kroeker was a cabinet minister's aide who was accused of leaking details of an overseas trip taken by a committee of Canadian senators. He was fully supported by his boss.
The two distinctly different responses to two young men accused of leaking sensitive information has opposition critics alleging a double standard.
Mr. Monaghan, 27, also part of a collective that set up Ottawa's first anarchist bookstore last month, revealed his identity and launched a counterattack yesterday against Stephen Harper's government.
One day after he was handcuffed at his workstation, he appeared in Parliament Hill's press room sporting a white shirt, black tie and sneakers, delivering an indictment of Tory environmental policy.
"The proposed charges against me pose a profound threat to the public interest," Mr. Monaghan said.
"They are without precedent in their disproportionality, they are vengeful and they are an extension of a government-wide communications strategy pinned on secrecy, intimidation and centralization."
Mr. Monaghan was released without charges on Wednesday. According to an RCMP statement, he could be charged with breach of trust, punishable under the Criminal Code by up to five years in prison.
He worked at Environment Canada on a temporary contract, preparing briefings on newspaper clippings and media reports for department officials.
His contract was set to expire yesterday. But the government terminated his employment a day early.
Meanwhile, an all-party committee report came down hard on Mr. Kroeker, the cabinet aide, for leaking confidential material to the media.
Mr. Kroeker, then a senior adviser to Marjory LeBreton, the Government Leader in the Senate, was staunchly defended by his boss last fall when he was accused of leaking hotel bills and other documents to the news media about other senators travelling in Dubai.
After news reports surfaced revealing the hotel costs, Ms. LeBreton insisted last November that she did not believe anyone on her staff acted improperly, nor was her staff the source of the media leaks.
But she would not comment yesterday after an all-party committee report concluded that her then-assistant, Mr. Kroeker, admitted he gathered personal information on senators and leaked it to CTV, CBC and the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
"Mr. Kroeker's conduct in gathering and disseminating the information was inappropriate and unethical," the committee report states.
As of yesterday, Mr. Kroeker was still a senior Tory cabinet aide, serving as the director of communications to Helena Guergis, the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.
John Williamson of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation defended Mr. Kroeker, saying his actions do not compare to the leaking of government policy.
"The Senate has a history of hiding its expenses and then circling the wagons and that's what happened here," he said.
Liberal MP David McGuinty said the Conservatives appear to be using two different standards when faced with allegations of leaks.
"If they were going to be consistent, [Mr. Kroeker] should have been reprimanded if not fired," said Mr. McGuinty, the Liberal environment critic. "At the very least, if they're going to hold themselves to this kind of standard [of calling the police], they should do that with their own people. They should lead by example."
A photograph of Mr. Monaghan, the former public servant, appeared in the Ottawa Citizen accompanying a story on the anarchist bookstore. Mr. Monaghan refused to say whether he faxed the Tory green plan to the media.
"The leak under investigation is the first explicit document of the Government of Canada that states, clearly, that it has no intention to follow its legal responsibilities" under the Kyoto Protocol to reduce emissions.
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Tales of two leakers spark furor in Ottawa
By BILL CURRY AND ALEX DOBROTA
Friday, May 11, 2007 – Page A1
OTTAWA -- Jeffrey Monaghan was a government contract worker who is alleged to have scooped the Conservatives by leaking details of the government's green plan. He was led away in handcuffs Wednesday and fired from his job.
Jeffrey Kroeker was a cabinet minister's aide who was accused of leaking details of an overseas trip taken by a committee of Canadian senators. He was fully supported by his boss.
The two distinctly different responses to two young men accused of leaking sensitive information has opposition critics alleging a double standard.
Mr. Monaghan, 27, also part of a collective that set up Ottawa's first anarchist bookstore last month, revealed his identity and launched a counterattack yesterday against Stephen Harper's government.
One day after he was handcuffed at his workstation, he appeared in Parliament Hill's press room sporting a white shirt, black tie and sneakers, delivering an indictment of Tory environmental policy.
"The proposed charges against me pose a profound threat to the public interest," Mr. Monaghan said.
"They are without precedent in their disproportionality, they are vengeful and they are an extension of a government-wide communications strategy pinned on secrecy, intimidation and centralization."
Mr. Monaghan was released without charges on Wednesday. According to an RCMP statement, he could be charged with breach of trust, punishable under the Criminal Code by up to five years in prison.
He worked at Environment Canada on a temporary contract, preparing briefings on newspaper clippings and media reports for department officials.
His contract was set to expire yesterday. But the government terminated his employment a day early.
Meanwhile, an all-party committee report came down hard on Mr. Kroeker, the cabinet aide, for leaking confidential material to the media.
Mr. Kroeker, then a senior adviser to Marjory LeBreton, the Government Leader in the Senate, was staunchly defended by his boss last fall when he was accused of leaking hotel bills and other documents to the news media about other senators travelling in Dubai.
After news reports surfaced revealing the hotel costs, Ms. LeBreton insisted last November that she did not believe anyone on her staff acted improperly, nor was her staff the source of the media leaks.
But she would not comment yesterday after an all-party committee report concluded that her then-assistant, Mr. Kroeker, admitted he gathered personal information on senators and leaked it to CTV, CBC and the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
"Mr. Kroeker's conduct in gathering and disseminating the information was inappropriate and unethical," the committee report states.
As of yesterday, Mr. Kroeker was still a senior Tory cabinet aide, serving as the director of communications to Helena Guergis, the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.
John Williamson of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation defended Mr. Kroeker, saying his actions do not compare to the leaking of government policy.
"The Senate has a history of hiding its expenses and then circling the wagons and that's what happened here," he said.
Liberal MP David McGuinty said the Conservatives appear to be using two different standards when faced with allegations of leaks.
"If they were going to be consistent, [Mr. Kroeker] should have been reprimanded if not fired," said Mr. McGuinty, the Liberal environment critic. "At the very least, if they're going to hold themselves to this kind of standard [of calling the police], they should do that with their own people. They should lead by example."
A photograph of Mr. Monaghan, the former public servant, appeared in the Ottawa Citizen accompanying a story on the anarchist bookstore. Mr. Monaghan refused to say whether he faxed the Tory green plan to the media.
"The leak under investigation is the first explicit document of the Government of Canada that states, clearly, that it has no intention to follow its legal responsibilities" under the Kyoto Protocol to reduce emissions.
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Baden Guy said:
Well of course it sparked furor amongst the opposition, that's the political way.
Unfortunately, they are two totally different cases.
One was a leak of a secret policy document. That document was in no way unethical, illegal or fraudulent, and the leaker should face the repercussions of his actions for that before the courts of this Country which is in the public interest.
The other was a whistleblower who brought to light an alleged misspending of taxpayers monies by members of this countries senate which is/was in the public interest.
Apples do not equal oranges, despite what the opposition would like everyone to believe.
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I thought the "One day after he was handcuffed at his workstation," was a bit over the top.
Sounds like soneone instructed the RCMP to make a high profile arrest "pour encourager l'autres."
Sounds like soneone instructed the RCMP to make a high profile arrest "pour encourager l'autres."
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Isn't it policy for police to handcuff people when they arrest them, regardless of the charges pending? Any police officers on here want to chime in on that?GAP said:
(I highly doubt that the RCMP are doing the willing of the government in power for political reasons as is done in police states. Not now, not under the Liberals, not ever).
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As a Federal Civil Servent this clown pisses me off. I saw lots of stuff I disliked and disagreed with on a personal level, but as long as it is legal, you do your job or you quit. If it is illegal you report it. Democracy depends on a impartial civil service.
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This "Temp Worker" was said to have been in the job for four years in one report.
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The Librarian said:
I have to disagree on this point. There's different terms of employment in the Public Service - contract (most transient), term (longish-term contract) and indeterminate (firm, full-time) - but no matter what your term of service is, you're still a civil servant. When I worked for the public service on a contract basis, I don't think I was any less of a public servant than the full-timer with 20 years in. Did I have the same level of judgment and experience? No way. Was I working for the Government of Canada? Yup.
Colin P said:
Bang on - no matter what the terms of service, do it, or get out. Don't agree? Want to change overall direction of the government? Talk to a riding association, and become a candidate. Like soldiers, nobody elected the bureaucrats into power.
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milnewstbay said:
This guy was neither a contract worker, term or indeterminate.
He was a Temp worker, and as such swore no oath to the Crown, in effect he was not a Federal Civil Servant. Federal Civil Servants must swear that oath.
Gentlemen,
My concern is describing him as a Federal Civil Servant, which he is not. We have many civil servants who do take their oaths very seriously and they do not deserve to have their sworn oaths tarred by this jackass.
Other than that, I fully agree with all of you. He's an ass, deserves whatever he gets, and should be barred from ever again holding any job function which deals with personal or protected information or has opportunity to breach the public trust. I'm quite sure that will be the case too, because if he ever is found guilty for this matter, I'd say his security clearance would never be approved for a civil service job, even at the lowest level (term employee).
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