Hamas invaded Israel 2023
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Once again, the Genocide occurred to ~6 million individuals living across Europe who had Jewish heritage, and it was a horrible thing. Everything since 1948 has been directed against the state of Israel. Even the Munich Olympics attack in 1972 was against the Israeli Olympic team, not against any other Jewish persons. How many other targeted attacks have been made against Jewish individuals around the world, who were not Israeli? I don't have an issue with Israel attacking other states to protect them as a nation, just not when it is done in the defense of the Jewish faith.
The US didn't attack Afghanistan because they were Muslim, or because they were protecting the Christian faith, they were protecting the nation.
Flip side: if Israel was not full of Jews, its Arab neighbours would not want to cleanse it “from the river to the sea”. Israel explicitly exists to be the only country in which the Jewish people can be masters of their own defense and protection, and the threat they face is, literally, existential.
Like you, I reject that criticism of the state of Israel and its policies must necessarily be equated with antisemitism. Criticism of the state and its policies can absolutely be valid.
However, antisemitism can and does underlie a lot of the criticism of Israel the country, and is leveraged heavily by those who wish to extinguish the Jews as a people.
In any meaningful discussion about Israel/Gaza/the region, we need to be real about this. Israel exists under constant threat to its very existence, and we saw on October 7th just what a lot of Israel’s enemies are willing to do to any member of Israel’s Jewish population if they get the chance. Israel’s policies and actions will be guided first and foremost by their own right, need, and desire to literally just continue to exist on their own soil and not be slaughtered.
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Further highlighted by the fact that ISR media is reporting that the paper in question - which the ISR government still says was only a concept - was written by ISR's Ministry of Intelligence, with the word "lenient" in quotes, meaning that was in the paper as the int folks' assessment
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Agreed - with that whole "what fringes/splinters may be piggybacking on the main message with their own sub-version of the narrative?" thing happening.
Brad Sallows
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Going to be hard to sell that with so many pro-Hamas or merely pro-Palestinian protestors and supporters essentially expressing the sentiment "kill Jews".
I mean, that was the goal of ISIS as well.
And that’s why sooner or later he’s gonna eat a JDAM.
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Maybe just not in Qatari soil…
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That's when you send in a few Mossad agents.
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Or if that, then a deniable JDAM, like an errant S-300 or 400
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Or if that, then a deniable JDAM, like an errant S-300 or 400
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Maybe another Crusade needs to happen and include the Muslims that hate these radical Islamists and annihilate the SOBs.
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McG
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If all the Jews in Israel would just move to Utah then Hamas would not be so committed to killing all of them is some pretty hard denial against the fact that Hama’s aims are genocidal.
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Similar idea has been suggested before:
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…I might consider a name change if Muslims were to be included in the “Crusader” side….
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