Indirect Fires Modernization Project - C3/M777 Replacement

[Maxman1]

Agreed on Point 1 - and point 2.

People really believe in miracles.....like the "surgical strike" of a 500 pound guided bomb. Its far from surgical.

The T-12 Cloudmaker is more "to whom it may concern".

 

[Maxman1]

This looks nice

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So does this:

 

[Maxman1]

Which one? The French like their rifle grenades. We never adopted any for full service use.

APAV 40, which uses a bullet trap and slides over the muzzle of any STANAG muzzle device. The Americans also have a door breaching grenade, the M100 GREM.

 

[NavyShooter]

Now I have something to go looking for to add to my C1 Collection....

 

[markppcli]

Sometimes folks have nothing to say but we can't stop talking.




That's changing. People are expecting more and more precision.

kind of, we’re breaking people of the habit of adjusting by default. Close enough is good enough and all that.

 

[FJAG]

kind of, we’re breaking people of the habit of adjusting by default. Close enough is good enough and all that.

Technology has pretty much upped the game since my days where adjusting fire was an art. With GPS and the ability to fix direction accurately, at both the gun and OP, you are pretty much left with met and the round's CEP as the variables. We've upped the game on met as well and the M777 narrows the CEP. That's good enough for hitting area targets on a first round but not a point target. That still needs a munition with some type of terminal guidance which eliminates all met and CEP issues.

I can't speak for how much terminally guided munitions Canada has in its inventory, but they are widely available and getting considerably cheaper.

 

[KevinB]

APAV 40, which uses a bullet trap and slides over the muzzle of any STANAG muzzle device. The Americans also have a door breaching grenade, the M100 GREM.

The M100 is just the Israeli Simon, adopted down here in 2014.

Canada (CANSOF) had it before it was available down here.

Didn’t really go anywhere in SOCOM as one needs to remove one’s suppressor to use it.

To be honest I never got the point, If I’m being quiet I’ll be placing charges to breach — if it’s gone loud and it is close, it will be satchel charges. If it’s loud and longer it is much easily done by a Standalone M320, M203, or the Hk-69 — and then one does not need to remove ones can (which is going to be very hot), put the Simon grenade on the muzzle - aim and fire the Simon at the door/wall.

 

[Kirkhill]

Technology has pretty much upped the game since my days where adjusting fire was an art. With GPS and the ability to fix direction accurately, at both the gun and OP, you are pretty much left with met and the round's CEP as the variables. We've upped the game on met as well and the M777 narrows the CEP. That's good enough for hitting area targets on a first round but not a point target. That still needs a munition with some type of terminal guidance which eliminates all met and CEP issues.

I can't speak for how much terminally guided munitions Canada has in its inventory, but they are widely available and getting considerably cheaper.

You can also put a picture in the missile's memory and say:"fly here"