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Indirect Fires Modernization Project - C3/M777 Replacement

IKnowNothing said:
Everything I've read (both direct and commentary) suggests that the IFM RFP was written for Lav 6 10x10 + RCH. I'm assuming that cabinet has the authority to say "scratch that, we want domestically built K9's as part of this bigger deal K9 wins".

So my question is- what the consequences of such a rug pull be? I figure GDLS-C could sue, but what are they suing for? Damages for time wasted on the bid? Can they reverse a strategic cabinet decision and force us return to the tender? Make us buy both?
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Not if we prove it is in the national interest
 
IKnowNothing said:
Everything I've read (both direct and commentary) suggests that the IFM RFP was written for Lav 6 10x10 + RCH. I'm assuming that cabinet has the authority to say "scratch that, we want domestically built K9's as part of this bigger deal K9 wins".

So my question is- what the consequences of such a rug pull be? I figure GDLS-C could sue, but what are they suing for? Damages for time wasted on the bid? Can they reverse a strategic cabinet decision and force us return to the tender? Make us buy both?
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MilEME09 said:
Not if we prove it is in the national interest
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We have to spend some money in Europe if we want access to SAFE I would think
 
MilEME09 said:
why not both? there more to europe then german armour, if we do buy Gripen that counts, M4 carl g? that counts too as examples
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100% agree.

We should be thinking beyond just buying. We should be looking to form partnerships and build things here where possible.

It will cost more, but it will give us a defense base to build on when needed.
 
IKnowNothing said:
Everything I've read (both direct and commentary) suggests that the IFM RFP was written for Lav 6 10x10 + RCH. I'm assuming that cabinet has the authority to say "scratch that, we want domestically built K9's as part of this bigger deal K9 wins".
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I haven't seen the RFP, but the RFI had a speed provision which negated any tracked howitzer. IMHO, it was a stupid provision that's a residual of the medium wheeled army cabal. I'll be blunt - war in Latvia needs a tracked force if it wants to actualoly manoeuvre year round.
IKnowNothing said:
So my question is- what the consequences of such a rug pull be? I figure GDLS-C could sue, but what are they suing for? Damages for time wasted on the bid? Can they reverse a strategic cabinet decision and force us return to the tender? Make us buy both?
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One has to look closely at the paperwork.
MilEME09 said:
why not both? there more to europe then german armour, if we do buy Gripen that counts, M4 carl g? that counts too as examples
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I've come around to the No to Gripen way of thinking. I'm with the 88 F-35 crowd and a new type of multirole aircraft that serves the role of trainer, Snowbirds and secondary combat capability. I think the Gripen is going nowhere anywhere else in the world. I dislike the Americans as much as anyone these days but there's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

There are plenty of things to spend that cash on and CV90 and BvS 10 is high on my list. Maybe conversion of our A4s to Kf51s.

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FJAG said:
I haven't seen the RFP, but the RFI had a speed provision which negated any tracked howitzer. IMHO, it was a stupid provision that's a residual of the medium wheeled army cabal. I'll be blunt - war in Latvia needs a tracked force if it wants to actualoly manoeuvre year round.

One has to look closely at the paperwork.

I've come around to the No to Gripen way of thinking. I'm with the 88 F-35 crowd and a new type of multirole aircraft that serves the role of trainer, Snowbirds and secondary combat capability. I think the Gripen is going nowhere anywhere else in the world. I dislike the Americans as much as anyone these days but there's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

There are plenty of things to spend that cash on and CV90 and BvS 10 is high on my list. Maybe conversion of our A4s to Kf51s.

🍻
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https://www.utvint.com/voyager-d12-carrier/ for DAME
 
KevinB said:
I’d like to remind the 105 fans that one reason Ukraine likes them is there is a fairly large stockpile of ammo as most of NATO has reduce the 105mm to very niche roles.

It isn’t a practical front line gun at this point - regardless of mounted or towed.
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If that is the case, the only guns on the parade square will be ceremonial and no functioning howitzers for the Reserves to train on.
 
Colin Parkinson said:
If that is the case, the only guns on the parade square will be ceremonial and no functioning howitzers for the Reserves to train on.
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The solution to that is buying more K9s and simulators not buying something gun to train on that has little to no carry over for what we intend to fight with.
 
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