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@brihard the CAF wouldn't need more than a couple RCMP on any deployed op because the majority of the CAF's "files" are disciplinary in nature and the units would deal with that. RCMP would only deal with crime. The MP (no longer called MP) would be doing D&S of the fobs/camps, convoy escort, counter int, pw handling, all that other stuff you don't need police to do but don't want to task your other trades with. I'm guessing the RCMP could sustain a couple members deployed with no issue and no trouble finding volunteers. Agree, any local police agency could assume domestic policing of the CAF institutions.
 
@brihard the CAF wouldn't need more than a couple RCMP on any deployed op because the majority of the CAF's "files" are disciplinary in nature and the units would deal with that. RCMP would only deal with crime. The MP (no longer called MP) would be doing D&S of the fobs/camps, convoy escort, counter int, pw handling, all that other stuff you don't need police to do but don't want to task your other trades with. I'm guessing the RCMP could sustain a couple members deployed with no issue and no trouble finding volunteers. Agree, any local police agency could assume domestic policing of the CAF institutions.
Could be workable. For a tour medal and tax free status they’ll definitely find volunteers to deploy. There would need to be some legal adjustments to allow for RCMP to lay CC/CDSA/potentially other criminal charges pursuant to s.130 NDA, but that’s a relatively minor fix if the will is there.
 
The NIS shouldn't survive without the backbone of the farm team existing. And they wouldn't be necessary anyway, the only hard part in all of this would be for the CAF to frankly learn what are crimes that require police intervention and what are policy or order breaches that don't, and they have difficulty with that in part due to the application of NDA S. 129 (2).

The Band-Aid needs to be ripped off and policing function completely removed from the CFMP. This isn't a knock on the members in the branch who I know are more than capable of doing the job excellently - when allowed. The CAF and the hierarchy of the CFMP branch do not allow it and conflicts abound. By hitting delete on "police" and focusing on robust and professional force protection, the CAF would be getting much better bang for buck in the security arena and also have a deployable force capable of many tasks in theatre of conflict. This would be a widely utilized unit useful in all kinds of deployed and domestic ops.
 
You don't want that now. Given the geriatrics that are common throughout the commissionaire world, the most they should get is a wooden gun, maybe a whistle.

Airfield security could be made simple through the use of technology (camera and motion detection monitoring) and better perimeter fencing and walls.

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Again, it's an investment that only a serious country and military would make if they were serious about security. We are not.

Sensing is great, but you still would need a QRF when something is sensed.
 
Sensing is great, but you still would need a QRF when something is sensed.

Can’t the on-duty MPs handle any legit security breaches or some drunk dude trying to climb the fence? I don’t think things would go really well for us if an organized group really wanted to do some damage. Our current wasf model isn’t exactly quick to react.
 
Can’t the on-duty MPs handle any legit security breaches or some drunk dude trying to climb the fence? I don’t think things would go really well for us if an organized group really wanted to do some damage. Our current wasf model isn’t exactly quick to react.
That's the problem though, our current security isn't adequate. We could add cameras, but that just lets us keep failing with less people...
 
Can’t the on-duty MPs handle any legit security breaches or some drunk dude trying to climb the fence? I don’t think things would go really well for us if an organized group really wanted to do some damage. Our current wasf model isn’t exactly quick to react.

What if the on-duty MPs are on a call already? Fire in the PMQs or something?
 
Resource management and triage.

Our airfield security IS a failure at this point, luckily up here in Canada nothing bad happens.
 
FWWI, writ large, airfield infrastructure and security in the civilian world is in trouble too. It's a massive, nationally strategic, infrastructure issue that many jurisdictions struggle with on a regular basis....

Canada’s airports are falling behind on infrastructure improvements that should reflect our modern ambitions​

Op-ed by-lined by Deborah Flint, Philippe Rainville and Bob Sartor in response to the Globe & Mail article on Pearson airport delays and the airport model in Canada.

Deborah Flint is President and CEO, Greater Toronto Airports Authority, Philippe Rainville is President and CEO, ADM Aéroports de Montréal, Bob Sartor is President and CEO, Calgary Airport Authority

When all is normal, infrastructure goes unnoticed. But when something goes awry – when the subway breaks down, the pavement starts to crack and people can’t get where they need to be on time – everyone sees the consequences of infrastructure underinvestment. That’s when the red lights come on.

In recent months, those lights have been flashing for Canada’s largest airports. While the focus has been on lineups, labour shortages and random testing, others have noted–correctly – that some airports are falling behind on infrastructure improvements that are critical to alleviating the problems that existed before the pandemic and the ones that have worsened since.

Canada’s airports are a front door to this country. They welcome us home and offer a first impression for tourists, business travellers and immigrants. They should reflect our modern ambitions and capabilities.

Canada wants its airports to be digital, efficient and climate friendly. But COVID-19presented us with a new set of priorities. Instead of spending on innovation and infrastructure, we found ourselves taking on debt just to keep the lights on.

In an ideal world, the pandemic would have been an opportunity to modernize infrastructure while travel demand was low. Many U.S. airports accelerated their projects, saving hundreds of millions of dollars – and untold hours of passenger aggravation – in the process. But that wasn’t an option in Canada, largely because of our non-profit airport model and a lack of sector-specific support from the government.
In Canada, airports lease land from the government and recoup money from airlines and passengers. There are many advantages to this model. Indeed, airports across the country –especially the largest ones – have been generous contributors to their province’s GDP.

However, the not-for-profit model often requires infrastructure improvements to befinanced by taking on debt instead of raising share capital – and after losing 75 per cent oftheir passenger traffic, Canadian airports were already borrowing heavily just to keepoperating. Canada’s airports took on $2.8-billion in debt over the two pandemic years.

Canada’s airports weren’t alone of course: American airports warned that they expected to lose $40-billion in revenue over the two pandemic years. But the U.S. government has offset those losses with emergency aid and infrastructure funding for airports: $40-billion foroperating and infrastructure support.

Canadian airports have not benefited from the same level of infrastructure investments as their American counterparts. In fact, the gap is significant. American airports have received40 times more funding than Canadian airports, even though the U.S. has only ten times the population as Canada.

American airports compete with ours for traffic – Canadian airports need infrastructure investment to stay competitive. But ours had no choice but to slash spending for all but the most critical infrastructure work. What responsible business could invest in upgrades and expansion while taking on debt to keep the lights on?

Of the few upgrades that have moved forward recently, most have focused on passenger processing and border security. For example, Toronto Pearson recently added e-gates to expedite international arrivals. But there remains a long way to go. Updated processes are the key to solving this summer’s pain points. For example, the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority could speed up air security immensely by expediting the backlog of “trusted traveller” applications under the NEXUS and Global Entry programs.

Even these are low-hanging fruit compared to the big overdue capital improvements. We should continue to create digital tools and efficiencies while upgrading our legacy infrastructure, such as transit for workers and passengers; tarmac repairs and baggage carousel upgrades; and moving into clean technology – alternative fuels, electric transport vehicles, energy storage. Through Airports Council International, the Canadian industry has taken up the federal 2050 net-zero challenge.

 

At least the British know who not to send when there's an international crisis involving a military airfield....

RAF unit's fury at being left out of Afghan rescue mission: Top commander is blasted in letter from 63 non-commissioned officers telling him he had 'no clue' how to use the regiment​

  • RAF head and Air Chief Marshal Mike Wigston was accused of damaging morale
  • Attack came in letter signed by 63 non-commissioned officers in No 1 Squadron
  • It describes failure to use RAF Regiment in Afghanistan as an 'embarrassment'
  • It said it was proof Sir Mike Wigston had 'no clue' how to use the RAF Regiment
 
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