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Informing the Army’s Future Structure

If you take a unit that has 250 soldiers and tell them they can only have 120 now, what is supposed to happen to the other 130?
I find it hard to believe that many if any PRes unit have 2 actual field companies.
Regardless 2 companies isn’t a BN, and could easily be commanded by a Major, or merged with other units to form a 3 Rifle Coy plus Combat Support Coy and Adm/HQ Coy to make them a real formation as opposed to a giant paper lie.
 
If you take a unit that has 250 soldiers and tell them they can only have 120 now, what is supposed to happen to the other 130?
What unit, what is in those 250 positions, how many established mission sub-units does it have, and is there a band?
 
You have a well documented track record of young Canadians, every year, volunteering to serve Canada. Typically they make themselves available for Class A service terms for 5 years and for call out when they are available. Typically that results in a 30% turnout during a "crisis" that does not disrupt the national economy. Presumably a crisis that did disrupt the national economy would increase both the availability (more unemployed) and more motivation (...).

The army needs to adjust its thinking accordingly and work with what is available.
 
The army needs to adjust its thinking accordingly and work with what is available.
That presupposes that it is impossible to change the status quo.

I'm more in the camp of those who feel that one can achieve better results with the material that is making itself available if one stops rearranging deck chairs and looks to a real and achievable transformation.

;)
 
That presupposes that it is impossible to change the status quo.

I'm more in the camp of those who feel that one can achieve better results with the material that is making itself available if one stops rearranging deck chairs and looks to a real and achievable transformation.

;)

I am with you up to and including "deck chairs".

Where we digress is in the envisioning of transformation.

....

Where we start diverging is with week day training and underestimating the volunteer's (aka the enthusiast's) willingness to self-educate. One of the greatest prizes on enlistment is the access to insider information.

Show up on Wednesday night. Get one hour of TOETs and two hours of instruction with assigned on-line instruction. Repeat every Wednesday.

Confirmatory exercises locally every two weekends for a day and a half.

Two weeks of Class B instruction every year for the first three years.

After three years the candidate has received the following...

September to May (9 months)

3x 39 Wednesdays = 107 nights
3 hours per night = 321 hours

3x 18 weekends = 54 weekends
36 hours per weekend = 1944 hours

In addition to the supervised training I would suggest you coul expect another hour or two a night of home study. Call that another 6 hours a week.

Equivalent to another two parade nights a week or another 642 hours of training time.

Total training time available

321
1944
642


2907 hours spread over three years.

Year 4 graduate joins a unit for unit training (a period of some weeks emphasising OJT) and in year 5 is committed to a Maple Resolve type confirmatory exercise.

For the next 5 years the soldier is excused mandatory training but is liable to call-up by their unit.

In return the soldier receives a stipend based on skills and avalability and not based on hours.

Failure to conform to the terms of the contract means termination of the stipend and any other perks and privileges that might be included. It could also mean coughing up the stipend already paid if minimum qualifications aren't met.

Conversely additional skills acquired through independent study and volunteering to train, recruit or administer troops would all see a pay rise.

You do more. You make more.
 
I am with you up to and including "deck chairs".

Where we digress is in the envisioning of transformation.

....

Where we start diverging is with week day training and underestimating the volunteer's (aka the enthusiast's) willingness to self-educate. One of the greatest prizes on enlistment is the access to insider information.

Show up on Wednesday night. Get one hour of TOETs and two hours of instruction with assigned on-line instruction. Repeat every Wednesday.

Confirmatory exercises locally every two weekends for a day and a half.

Two weeks of Class B instruction every year for the first three years.

After three years the candidate has received the following...

September to May (9 months)

3x 39 Wednesdays = 107 nights
3 hours per night = 321 hours

3x 18 weekends = 54 weekends
36 hours per weekend = 1944 hours

In addition to the supervised training I would suggest you coul expect another hour or two a night of home study. Call that another 6 hours a week.

Equivalent to another two parade nights a week or another 642 hours of training time.

Total training time available

321
1944
642


2907 hours spread over three years.

Year 4 graduate joins a unit for unit training (a period of some weeks emphasising OJT) and in year 5 is committed to a Maple Resolve type confirmatory exercise.

For the next 5 years the soldier is excused mandatory training but is liable to call-up by their unit.

In return the soldier receives a stipend based on skills and avalability and not based on hours.

Failure to conform to the terms of the contract means termination of the stipend and any other perks and privileges that might be included. It could also mean coughing up the stipend already paid if minimum qualifications aren't met.

Conversely additional skills acquired through independent study and volunteering to train, recruit or administer troops would all see a pay rise.

You do more. You make more.
I think you vastly overestimate what can be done on weeknights and weekends, and underestimate the raw information that troops need to know and skills to master these days.
 
If you take a unit that has 250 soldiers and tell them they can only have 120 now, what is supposed to happen to the other 130?
I can give an example of one or two of those units.

250 establishment.
185 effective once you remove NES, releases etc.
Add maybe 10 that are off establishment that come in on MOUs
Likely a band or pipe band ( which are still user for other green tasks mind you) so say 30 odd.
25 or so are non ofp
5 to 10% are deployed
Then factor in people away on course or other CFTPO, instructors etc.

If you lower establishment to 120 you might get a section or so of troops for anything vs the platoon that 250 can reasonably generate.

The issue is that people forget the whole volunteer thing. If you made a reg force exercise voluntary on their time off I’m pretty sure you’d see worse proportional numbers than what the reserves can provide.

A unit that has 250 could get a company plus out if they were ordered by OIC to mobilize. So a dom op could see a DRC plus extras for a unit that size. Close to two DRCs. And bands can do dom ops.

But there is a current reluctance to actually mobilize reservists.
 
I think you vastly overestimate what can be done on weeknights and weekends, and underestimate the raw information that troops need to know and skills to master these days.
2 weeks of an area concentration can give most a years worth of class a experience if properly planned. And much deeper than anything a weekend can get you.
 
I am with you up to and including "deck chairs". . . . For the next 5 years the soldier is excused mandatory training but is liable to call-up by their unit.
That right there is what I consider to be the crux of "stop rearranging "deck chairs." Under the QR&O we can order a reservist to train, but we don't and can't in practical terms anyway.

My thought process goes to a system whereby a reservist joining the CAF has an obligation for mandatory training and the the option to attend additional voluntary training. In addition the individual is subject to full-time active service if his government orders it and is also able to voluntarily agree to tours of temporary full-time service.

The underlying philosophy is get them while they are young and have the time to train in the summers and need money and then reduce the mandatory training requirements when they are older and have other responsibilities in life to the eventual point where there are no training requirements and they are merely on stand-by for a period of time. So - a career looks like this:

1. on enrollment the individual is put on a BTL and attends mandatory training in their summer vacation (2 months for high schoolers, 3-4 for university/college students) and one weekend per month - until they complete their full DP1 qualification. They sign up for an obligatory term of service that covers their time on DP1 training plus, let's say three years or mandatory training at their unit thereafter. No release is given during this time and a refusal to serve results in recovery of training costs like other obligatory service schemes already in use;

2. once DP 1 is complete and the individual is assigned to a unit he is obliged to mandatory training of one weekend per month for ten months and a two week annual summer exercise. That works out to roughly 41.5 training days. The training is rigorously set by the army based on an essential multi-year unit training plan structured to that unit's readiness requirements and role. Federal legislation is prepared to support that mandatory attendance.

3. The individual is allowed to attend on a voluntary basis whatever additional training programs might be available to progress through DP 2 and 3 levels.

4. After the initial term of obligatory service is complete, the individual either goes onto Supp Res status for a fixed term (let's say three years) or else reenlists for another term of mandatory service of 45.5 days per year (and let's include a reenlistment bonus as an incentive). Again, additional voluntary training and service opportunities are made available.

That's it in a nutshell. Anything that does not include mandatory DP1 training, an obligatory service period and mandatory annual unit training is "rearranging the deck chairs." The key is that the service requirements must 1) fit the life cycle of say the 90 percentile of the recruit base we are trying to attract; and 2) the essential unit training required to create an effective force. Everything else is just playing soldier.

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That right there is what I consider to be the crux of "stop rearranging "deck chairs." Under the QR&O we can order a reservist to train, but we don't and can't in practical terms anyway.

My thought process goes to a system whereby a reservist joining the CAF has an obligation for mandatory training and the the option to attend additional voluntary training. In addition the individual is subject to full-time active service if his government orders it and is also able to voluntarily agree to tours of temporary full-time service.

The underlying philosophy is get them while they are young and have the time to train in the summers and need money and then reduce the mandatory training requirements when they are older and have other responsibilities in life to the eventual point where there are no training requirements and they are merely on stand-by for a period of time. So - a career looks like this:

1. on enrollment the individual is put on a BTL and attends mandatory training in their summer vacation (2 months for high schoolers, 3-4 for university/college students) and one weekend per month - until they complete their full DP1 qualification. They sign up for an obligatory term of service that covers their time on DP1 training plus, let's say three years or mandatory training at their unit thereafter. No release is given during this time and a refusal to serve results in recovery of training costs like other obligatory service schemes already in use;

2. once DP 1 is complete and the individual is assigned to a unit he is obliged to mandatory training of one weekend per month for ten months and a two week annual summer exercise. That works out to roughly 41.5 training days. The training is rigorously set by the army based on an essential multi-year unit training plan structured to that unit's readiness requirements and role. Federal legislation is prepared to support that mandatory attendance.

3. The individual is allowed to attend on a voluntary basis whatever additional training programs might be available to progress through DP 2 and 3 levels.

4. After the initial term of obligatory service is complete, the individual either goes onto Supp Res status for a fixed term (let's say three years) or else reenlists for another term of mandatory service of 45.5 days per year (and let's include a reenlistment bonus as an incentive). Again, additional voluntary training and service opportunities are made available.

That's it in a nutshell. Anything that does not include mandatory DP1 training, an obligatory service period and mandatory annual unit training is "rearranging the deck chairs." The key is that the service requirements must 1) fit the life cycle of say the 90 percentile of the recruit base we are trying to attract; and 2) the essential unit training required to create an effective force. Everything else is just playing soldier.

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I see the "mandatory" issue as a simple contractual obligation. You sign on the dotted line both parties have mutual obligations of which regular pay is but one part.

In return for regular pay the private contractor is required to present themselves, in all respects, ready for training and duties with all issued kit in good order.

The employer has an equal obligation to equip the private contractor appropriately and provide effective training.

Failure on either side would mean a breach of contract.

And @KevinB , if you can't get the training done in the time available then either adjust your training ptogramme to be more effective or reduce your expectactions.

I am not offering you 25 year veterans.

I am offering you willing bodies that want to help. Some will have more skills than others and some, hopefully, will stick around for years learning new skills and passing them on.

Skills tracking needs to be HRs primary responsibility in a volunteer organization.
 
It occurs to me the Army Reserve would benefit from a Book of Common Prayer.

Every week every unit in every armoury is doing the same thing.
 
I am with you up to and including "deck chairs".

Where we digress is in the envisioning of transformation.

....

Where we start diverging is with week day training and underestimating the volunteer's (aka the enthusiast's) willingness to self-educate. One of the greatest prizes on enlistment is the access to insider information.

Show up on Wednesday night. Get one hour of TOETs and two hours of instruction with assigned on-line instruction. Repeat every Wednesday.

Confirmatory exercises locally every two weekends for a day and a half.

Two weeks of Class B instruction every year for the first three years.

After three years the candidate has received the following...

September to May (9 months)

3x 39 Wednesdays = 107 nights
3 hours per night = 321 hours

3x 18 weekends = 54 weekends
36 hours per weekend = 1944 hours

In addition to the supervised training I would suggest you coul expect another hour or two a night of home study. Call that another 6 hours a week.

Equivalent to another two parade nights a week or another 642 hours of training time.

Total training time available

321
1944
642


2907 hours spread over three years.

Year 4 graduate joins a unit for unit training (a period of some weeks emphasising OJT) and in year 5 is committed to a Maple Resolve type confirmatory exercise.

For the next 5 years the soldier is excused mandatory training but is liable to call-up by their unit.

In return the soldier receives a stipend based on skills and avalability and not based on hours.

Failure to conform to the terms of the contract means termination of the stipend and any other perks and privileges that might be included. It could also mean coughing up the stipend already paid if minimum qualifications aren't met.

Conversely additional skills acquired through independent study and volunteering to train, recruit or administer troops would all see a pay rise.

You do more. You make more.

I think you vastly overestimate what can be done on weeknights and weekends, and underestimate the raw information that troops need to know and skills to master these days.

2907 hours

Divide that into 40 minute periods and you have

4360 periods of instruction spread over three years.

4360 periods

8 periods a day
545 days of instruction

5 days of instruction per week
109 weeks of instruction

9 months of instruction per year
75% of a year
39 weeks of instruction

109 total weeks of instruction
Divided by
39 weeks of instruction per year

2.8 years of education in public school setting.

....

Due to failure to plan the Canadian Army is wasting the opportunity to supply willing students with the equivalent of three years of High School classes.

....

Plan to fail.
 
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