Iran Super Thread- Merged

[The Bread Guy]

So I guess an IRGC team can attack a USN vessel (anywhere) and that’s fair game.

Even if the US’s navy isn’t the one designated as a terrorist organization?

 

[Cloud Cover]

Buddy yapping kind of ruined this most excellent video of a B2 circling a USN carrier…

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029179689030304228

 

[The Bread Guy]

An F-35 killing a Yak-130 is like Mike Tyson going after a rookie high school boxer. I really wouldn't be bragging about this.

Gotta catch up to the Kuwaitis’ claim to ace status somehow, right?

 

[Cloud Cover]

Even if the US’s navy isn’t the one designated as a terrorist organization?

Well Iran already designated … checks notes … the Royal Canadian Navy as a terrorist organization…

 

[Czech_pivo]

Gotta catch up to the Kuwaitis’ claim to ace status somehow, right?

Kind of like the F-22 bragging about taking down a Chinese weather balloon.....

 

[Jarnhamar]

what I understood was that the Iranian Navy is one of the least dogmatic/fanatical of the services.

Doesn't Iran have a documented pattern of detaining foreign vessels and crews at sea?

Sounds like pirates.

 

[KevinB]

Have they shown you an indication they care much for alliances ?

I also don't think the US would care much if Europe said they can go home. I think they would happily leave Europe to Europeans.

I would not lump the entire country as a whole into the mindset of thecurrent administration

 

[Remius]

Arguably a giant US military base in a sufficiently vacated and cleansed Gaza should permanently meet all of their Mediterranean basing needs.

I think you misquoted me. I never said what you responded to.

 

[Remius]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029276988821696685

So who is telling the truth here?

 

[Brad Sallows]

Yes you’re right. They always went alone when bigfooting around Latin America.

There were a handful of Caribbean countries that joined them in Grenada.

Iran will not be like their previous Latin American actions.

But my point stands that for all their major wars since and including the Second World War, they had allies.

And for this one, they have Israel.

 

[daftandbarmy]

That explains it.

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[Halifax Tar]

 

[Retired AF Guy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029276988821696685

So who is telling the truth here?

From Euronews:

21:39 GMT+1

Spain denies cooperation with US operations in the Middle East, contradicting White House​

Madrid has denied claims from the White House that it has agreed to cooperate with US military operations in the Middle East.

The rebuttal contradicts earlier statements from US Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, who told reporters that Spain had heard the president's message "loud and clear" and agreed to assist.

The diplomatic clash follows a threat from US President Donald Trump on Tuesday to "cut off all trade with Spain." The warning came after Madrid refused to allow the US to use jointly operated military bases in southern Spain for any strikes lacking a UN charter mandate.

Sertaç Aktan

 

[Czech_pivo]

That explains it.

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I loved to compare this Kuwaiti ghetto to Chicago/Compton.

 

[brihard]

Doesn't Iran have a documented pattern of detaining foreign vessels and crews at sea?

Sounds like pirates.

So does the U.S. Navy. America unilaterally declares sanctions nobody else recognizes, attacks foreign merchant vessels in international waters, boards them, and seizes them.

Shrug

 

[HavokFour]

From Euronews:

Ouch. I wonder if this is another Leavitt slip up, or if the plan is to throw her under the bus. A lot of that happening lately.

 

[QV]

And for this one, they have Israel.

For a war with Iran, Israel is a more directly useful ally than the US's traditional allies. Readiness, capability, and regional location being important.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... what I understood was that the Iranian Navy is one of the least dogmatic/fanatical of the services ...

Didn't save the Wehrmacht during WW 2, though, either. As others smarter than me have said, if it's war, it's war - "special military operations" or "major combat operations" taxonomy notwithstanding.

 

[KevinB]

For a war with Iran, Israel is a more directly useful ally than the US's traditional allies. Readiness, capability, and regional location being important.

No one in the Gulf is shedding a tear for Iran. Most just don’t want to pay the butchers bill.

I’m actually surprised to hear Jordan hasn’t joined the air war as they have some scores to settle in Iran.

 

[Lumber]

Buddy yapping kind of ruined this most excellent video of a B2 circling a USN carrier…

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029179689030304228

Hate to burst your bubble, but that's ARMA, not a real recording.