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Swarming confirmed, anyway …
USAF ignoring lessons learned over the last 4 years elsewhere, because they are the USAF and "We don't do those things"
 
Guys, I love the idea and the line of thought - but in all honesty, with Trump bashing us continuously about needing nothing from us and doing all that he can to gut our car industry and move it all back to the US, why do you believe that he would want us taking over any sort of military industry contributions to the US? It runs counter to all that he's been doing for the last 18 months.
I don’t imagine any of us are thinking we would produce for the U.S. Given our abundant wealth of raw materials of all sorts, we could certainly become a key munitions production partner for other allies. It may require some crown corporation involvement to ensure certain raw resource industries remain solvent against Chinese price manipulation (Rare Earth element inputs come to mind), but this is a field where we really cannot rid market failure, so I’d see that as justified.
 

Related? Not even sure if this is confirmed. But if so, then hybrid warfare is really taking a leap forward.
P.S. - Only one public source I've found saying countermeasures didn't work.
 
P.S. - Only one public source I've found confirming countermeasures didn't work.
There’s no reason to think something like Ukraine’s ‘Operation Spiderweb’ couldn’t be repeated at any number of U.S. or NATO bases. Or Canadian, if anyone cared enough to hit us.
 
I don’t imagine any of us are thinking we would produce for the U.S. Given our abundant wealth of raw materials of all sorts, we could certainly become a key munitions production partner for other allies. It may require some crown corporation involvement to ensure certain raw resource industries remain solvent against Chinese price manipulation (Rare Earth element inputs come to mind), but this is a field where we really cannot rid market failure, so I’d see that as justified.
Just the two proposed ammunition plants makes us one of the top tier suppliers of 155mm rounds and propellent. Hopefully the new industrial ministry looks at the weaknesses in the NATO supply chain and tries to encourage other smaller Canadian companies to fill some of the needed niches. (rocket motors, guidance systems, etc, etc)
 
There’s no reason to think something like Ukraine’s ‘Operation Spiderweb’ couldn’t be repeated at any number of U.S. or NATO bases. Or Canadian, if anyone cared enough to hit us.

The fact that they were up there for hours is extremely concerning. This could easily be rehearsal for such an attack, and now whoever it was knows they have a pretty significant window to work with to position things.
 
The fact that they were up there for hours is extremely concerning. This could easily be rehearsal for such an attack, and now whoever it was knows they have a pretty significant window to work with to position things.

If you look at Barksdale, Minot, or Dyess AFBs on Google Maps, most of the B-52s and B-1s are out in the open, very exposed. Minot less so due to the distance from a population center, but still.

Even the B-2 hangars at Whiteman are easily identified. Shaped charges dropped from above would probably at a minimum compromise the stealth characteristics of the bombers parked within.

America’s strategic bomber fleet is no less vulnerable than Russia’s. Maybe even more so.
 
There’s no reason to think something like Ukraine’s ‘Operation Spiderweb’ couldn’t be repeated at any number of U.S. or NATO bases. Or Canadian, if anyone cared enough to hit us.
Am I wrong to assume that nuclear power plants should (will?) have strong anti-drone measures currently in place, throughout Ontario, Canada and the US?
 
Europe and North America watched the 1904-1905 Russo-Japanese War and decided it did not need to take aboard lessons from those lesser militaries. Then in 1914 they learned that industrial era rifles, machine guns, and artillery were in fact substantial change factors in warfare. It's not surprising that we ignored critical lessons while watching the Russian invasion against Ukraine today.

Some of what has been happening in that theatre will be unique to that theatre, but NATO nations need to identify and adapt to the new dynamics that are not going to remain unique to that theatre.
 
23% of unwrought aluminum that the US imports comes out of the Middle East (UAE and Bahrain), up from 16% in 2024.


EDIT: I have a feeling that the titanium sponge plant in Yanbu, Saudia Arabia is going to be targeted soon either by Iran itself or via the Houthi, the US also imports a significant amount from the country.
 
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Guys, I love the idea and the line of thought - but in all honesty, with Trump bashing us continuously about needing nothing from us and doing all that he can to gut our car industry and move it all back to the US, why do you believe that he would want us taking over any sort of military industry contributions to the US? It runs counter to all that he's been doing for the last 18 months.
There are non-US companies that I'm sure would greatly benefit from expanded production capability...especially far from any potential front lines in a major conflict.

 
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