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I feel sick to my stomach watching this. Not overly religious but I’m praying for the best possible outcome.
As a tac hel guy, I’m humbled by what these crews are confronting right now. I echo ytz’s comments, this is tip of the spear stuff. On our advanced tactics course I was exposed to csar ops from our American brethren. Sometimes we delude ourselves and underestimate what it takes to have a capability like this, even within organizations that should be sophisticated enough to know better. Similar for casevac, medevac, fwd air evac and neo.
I’ve only had to exercise, train and imagine this level. I’ve done coin operations in sandy regions, it got sketchy many a times, but this is in a different league.
Respect to these service members, regardless of opinion of their government’s choices.
Btw- in some of those videos I can’t believe the high altitudes they’re flying at.
As a tac hel guy, I’m humbled by what these crews are confronting right now. I echo ytz’s comments, this is tip of the spear stuff. On our advanced tactics course I was exposed to csar ops from our American brethren. Sometimes we delude ourselves and underestimate what it takes to have a capability like this, even within organizations that should be sophisticated enough to know better. Similar for casevac, medevac, fwd air evac and neo.
I’ve only had to exercise, train and imagine this level. I’ve done coin operations in sandy regions, it got sketchy many a times, but this is in a different league.
Respect to these service members, regardless of opinion of their government’s choices.
Btw- in some of those videos I can’t believe the high altitudes they’re flying at.
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Sure. But what are you willing to give up instead? Here's the thing. People on this forum love to talk about big numbers. I indulge occassionally too. But CSAR is ones of those unsexy things where you need to develop a whole bunch of competencies that nobody cares about except in moments like this.
You need an incredible amount of ISR, Spectrum warfare ability, specialized refuellers and helicopters, and supporting firepower. After getting all that you have to train relentlessly for the absolute worst day everybody in every air force fears.
I'd love Canada to do this. But it can't be half assed. Any failure gives the enemy more prisoners. So how many army regiments you willing to give up to fund this effort? That's the question. Because this is one of those things, where if you commit, it has to be 100%. Not 99. 100.
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I wouldn’t infer anything from what randos on the ground don’t see and post to Twitter. I’d comfortably bet it’s all hands on deck for this one, and they’re ready to kill the absolute shit out of anything and everything.
This isn’t far from the Gulf coast in flying terms. They could easily have a lot of stuff stacked up orbiting just offshore but only minutes away in a pinch.
Gawd I hope.
